What is WHP?

[Zak33]

don't care what you rear wheel drive boys say, a well driven Civic Type-R would destroy you on a 100 mile round trip of Buckinghamshire.

If you made the same cars, race the same route, once per month every month for a year, therefore covering all weather conditions, a Civic Type-R would own the 200's f this world, because, it is so much easier to drive fast.

In fact, I contend that spending sensible money on a 306 GTI-6 would do the job.

Very very few cars could livewith that, day in and day out.

and IF youre cars were not tweaked, and were standard, a Pug 106 GTi would do the same.

To be really fast in RWD Turbo takes more control than I have, and would choose the front drivers everytime for fast variable road work.

[Butuz]

Theres no doubting that for the average driver, and without traction control, a powerful FWD car is easier to drive than a powerful RWD car.

However, once you are used to RWD and have learned (or like me, am learning) how to use it, there is no going back. Maybe you will be tempted by a 4wd machine, but you'll certainly never go back to FWD. If FWD cars are so good, zak, how come hardly any performance/supercars i can think of use FWD? Think porsche, bmw, audi, lambo, ferrari, tvr, etc etc and how many of them are FWD? None. Theyre all either 4wd or RWD.

Whys that?

AS for cross country races, really the 3 things that would be most important are, knowledge of said route, handling, and brakes. power levels, or FWD/RWD wouldnt matter so much.

Butuz

[[GSV]Trig]

I deffo prefer 4wd to fwd, dont get me wrong fwd is fun, u can spin the fronts while going round corners n its ok for a laff but 4wd is more drivable...
never tried rwd tho...

[5lab]

If FWD cars are so good, zak, how come hardly any performance/supercars i can think of use FWD? Think porsche, bmw, audi, lambo, ferrari, tvr, etc etc and how many of them are FWD? None. Theyre all either 4wd or RWD.

Whys that?

i would personally say it has a lot to do with weight. fwd is more than fine for lightwieght cars, because they dont require *that much* power to get them going at a fair whack - 250 thru the front wheels is considered the limits, and 250 in a fatcat coupe (bimmer 6, for instance) would be slooow. theres some footage somewhere of a t5r with only fwd. its seriously tricked up and with a rolling start at 50mph still gets wheelspin.. i'm not sure how much better rwd is above, say, 30mph though (straight line only i'm talking here) - simply because the amount of difference it makes is less and less with every mph - i mean if yer car doesnt scrabble above 20mph, its gonna be as fast there as a rwd car with the same power/weight ratio..

fwd is in most cars these days cos its safer, more efficient, quieter etc. i have a rwd and its fun in the wet, but it sure as feck aint for the faint of heart..

[schrickvr6]

I'd say just over 300bhp is the limit for fwd as i have 270@the fly and in the dry i get very little wheelspin (or scrabble as butuz likes to say SO often), but then my car is very well set up and the power delivery is quite peaky, in the dry it has no problem dealing with sti wrx's around twisty A roads, motorway they have no chance, wet weather ok i would lose out.

FWD is quicker than both 4WD and RWD up to a certain power level and as much as i love RWD, most of the time you just don't get the space or conditions to use the capabilities to the full on our roads.