Guess the Car - Dec 20

[spacein_vader]

Apparently less than 200 left on UK roads - I didn't realise they were so rare.



Hopefully it's more Suzuki than Fiat!!

If I recall correctly it's a Suzuki even down to the body panels. Fiat just stuck their badges on and swapped out some of the engines for theirs.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

If I recall correctly it's a Suzuki even down to the body panels. Fiat just stuck their badges on and swapped out some of the engines for theirs.

Thank goodness for that then!

[XD_3VIL_M0NKEY]

Disappointed that you've not gone and bought a Jimny!

Wicked little motors they are.

[Zak33]

Hopefully it's more Suzuki than Fiat!!

yeah... . Fiat gave up with it, likely didn't break enbough to keep their garages profitable... it's very Suzuki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_Suzuki

[[GSV]Trig]

Ttiuwp!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

yeah... . Fiat gave up with it, likely didn't break enbough to keep their garages profitable... it's very Suzuki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_Suzuki

You have gained +10 reliability!

[DanceswithUnix]

If I recall correctly it's a Suzuki even down to the body panels. Fiat just stuck their badges on and swapped out some of the engines for theirs.

The whole point of getting an Italian car is the engines, it looks like the FIAT version came with a Suzuki engine so what would be the point?

I hope the 1.9 diesel Suzuki owners know to get stay on top of cam belt changes though.

[Zak33]

The whole point of getting an Italian car is the engines, it looks like the FIAT version came with a Suzuki engine so what would be the point?

I hope the 1.9 diesel Suzuki owners know to get stay on top of cam belt changes though.

AND water pump!! and tensioners

[MrJim]

I hadn't heard of the SX4 before. The hatchback is a little reminiscent of the Peugeot 205 (yeah, I'm that old!).

As for those bashing Fiat reliability...I have a 15 year old second-gen Multipla still going strong! Admittedly, it did require a new floor welded in a couple of years ago...!

[DanceswithUnix]

AND water pump!! and tensioners

lol, you know I've been through so many Italian cam belt changes I didn't even think to mention the water pump change, it's just something you do. Tensioners usually come as part of the cam belt kit.


... For the benefit of those that don't know, there is a tendancy for Italian engines to have the water pump under the cam belt. If the water pump goes, then that's a cam belt change. Water pump is usually about £30, and a cam belt anything over £300 (more like £600 on a Busso V6), so rather than risk it a competent garage will tell you to change the pump. That goes double with the 1.9 mjet diesels where for some reason they drive the water pump from the cam belt, so if the pump seizes then you snap the cam belt.

The main problem I see is that the belts are rated for quite a few miles, but being a rubber compound also a limit of usually 5 years. 7 years in, owner is going "nah, nowhere near 60K miles on that yet". Twang.

[Zak33]

theres another problem

When Fiat Alfa GM made the 1.9 Diesel they chose to use a PLASTIC impeller (propellor) for the water pump but with the required metal pulley wheel on the outside like normal

the plastic inner water pump impellor then disconnected itself from the pump shaft. It LOOKED OK on the outside, no water leaks are seen, no pump bearing noise and at tick over the temp is fine..but drive it... and they overheat and do a head gasket because the pump isnt pumping fast enough

replacement water pumps MUST have an all metal make-up

Tbf other brands us plastic too. VW for example

[Ttaskmaster]

Tbf other brands us plastic too. VW for example

Yup. Standard item on the list of First Things To Mod when you get a Škoda.

As for those bashing Fiat reliability...I have a 15 year old second-gen Multipla still going strong!

Of course it's going strong... When sheer embarrassment stops you from driving the thing out in public, it's not that likely to wear out!!

Incidentally, there was one featured in Car Throttle's latest Daily Driver challenge, recently.

[MrJim]

Of course it's going strong... When sheer embarrassment stops you from driving the thing out in public, it's not that likely to wear out!!

Incidentally, there was one featured in Car Throttle's latest Daily Driver challenge, recently.

Hey, less of that! I'm a Multipla owner and proud! Multipla's still have something of a cult following; you don't see many of them on the road these days, but when you do, they always flash their lights Although given the age mine is, that could always be because something just fell off

I had a look at that video...felt quite nostalgic. My Multipla is the second-gen shape which did away with the infamous 'frog eye' lights. It does make it look a little better!

[g8ina]

Its only a car .... (runs, ducks)

[MrJim]

Its only a car .... (runs, ducks)

Sacrilege!!

[Saracen999]

So .... not a Tesla, eh, Zak?