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    So it begins...

    There is lots of stuff flying around about modded consoles being banned. Haha, no more 'backups' for those types! It also looks like they are clamping down on the region hopping accounts too.
    Not around too often!

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    The banning doesnt stop the backups from working from what I have heard - it just stops the console logging into Live

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    Well aren't there mods out there that you can turn off if you want to go online? Still not gonna stop it, but if it means less cheating, thats cool.


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    Not sure how it will resolve cheating as all the mods at the moment just allow the playing of "backup" games, as far as I know they dont allow homebrew or unsigned code therefore I didnt think it was possible to cheat on the 360 anyway

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    I've never really experienced cheating on my 360 although people do glitch all the time. Case in point: Gears of War. (Damn that chainsaw glitch)


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    They will probably find a way around this (unbanning themselves or changing serial or whatever)

    Same story everytime really, microsoft should learn not to go up against better programmers

    Don't you have to pay to use live anyway? So they are denying paying customers with non backed up games from playing them online if they have a modded console? Isn't that illegal?

    Well anyway, I'm not too interested in gaming, if I get a 360 it would be for media capabilities - but I will wait and see if anything like xbmc is made by a 3rd party anytime soon (otherwise its htpc)

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is a clause in the XBox Live! usage agreement that prohibits use of modded consoles...

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    Think there is, which is why they've been banned. I thought this was going on anyway, didn't realise they've only just started


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlh View Post
    Not sure how it will resolve cheating as all the mods at the moment just allow the playing of "backup" games, as far as I know they dont allow homebrew or unsigned code therefore I didnt think it was possible to cheat on the 360 anyway
    Agreed. They have their statement all cocked up as far as my understanding goes. "Modded" consoles don't allow unsigned code, they just fool the DVD drive into thinking that a legit disk is inserted when it's not. No cheating there.

    They also don't mention whether it blocks users from downloading dashboard updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post

    They will probably find a way around this (unbanning themselves or changing serial or whatever)

    Same story everytime really, microsoft should learn not to go up against better programmers

    Don't you have to pay to use live anyway? So they are denying paying customers with non backed up games from playing them online if they have a modded console? Isn't that illegal?

    Well anyway, I'm not too interested in gaming, if I get a 360 it would be for media capabilities - but I will wait and see if anything like xbmc is made by a 3rd party anytime soon (otherwise its htpc)
    Yea aint it illegal to ban someone even though they paid for live? umm interesting.

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    Taken from the XBox Live T&C

    13. SERVICE OPERATION AND EQUIPMENT

    The Service may only be accessed with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console or by logging into your account via Xbox.com. If you are accessing the Service via an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, you agree that you are using authorized software and hardware, and that your software and hardware have not been modified in any unauthorized way (e.g., authorized repairs, upgrades and downloads). Any attempt to disassemble, decompile, create derivative works of, reverse engineer, modify, further sublicense, distribute or use for other purposes either the hardware or software associated with an original Xbox or Xbox 360 console or the Service, is strictly prohibited and may result in cancellation of your account and/or your ability to access the Service via your original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, and the pursuit of other legal remedies by Microsoft. Microsoft may take any legal action it deems appropriate against users who violate Microsoft’s systems or network security or this contract or any additional terms as described in Section 2 above, and such users may also incur criminal and/or civil liability.

    Microsoft reserves complete and sole discretion with respect to the operation of the Service. Microsoft may, among other things: (a) restrict or limit access to the Service; (b) retrieve information from the original Xbox or Xbox 360 console and any connected peripheral device used to log onto the Service as necessary to operate and protect the security of the Service, and to enforce this Agreement; and (c) upgrade, modify, withdraw, suspend, or discontinue any functionality or feature of the Service or any game from time to time without notice, which may involve the automatic download of related software directly to your original Xbox or Xbox 360 console, and which software may prevent your original Xbox or Xbox 360 console from accessing the Service, playing pirated games, or using unauthorized peripheral devices.

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    how many of you actualy read terms and conditions for the 360?

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    no-one, which is why it can come round to bite you in the backside...

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    Quote Originally Posted by menthel View Post

    It also looks like they are clamping down on the region hopping accounts too

    'tis true

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    there will always be some way of getting around the ban.
    My motto is where theres a ban theres another preson in the world who can pass it

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