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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Interestingly his Cinebench scores are the same as I got for a Sandy Bridge Celeron G540; 160 and 1.94 for R15 and R11.5, respectively.
    I found something more interesting:

    Star Swarm Stress Test - a free Mantle/DX11 demo

    Now I get a chance to test out Mantle in a situation that should be ideally suited for it - low clocked quad core processor with no turbo. Cheaper than shelling out for BF4, anyway

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    I found something more interesting:

    Star Swarm Stress Test - a free Mantle/DX11 demo

    Now I get a chance to test out Mantle in a situation that should be ideally suited for it - low clocked quad core processor with no turbo. Cheaper than shelling out for BF4, anyway
    I so detest steam at times. Jim your link says no URL and steam search cant find it either.


    Oops, sorry!
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    The link you followed does not appear to be a valid URL.


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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by dfour View Post
    I so detest steam at times. Jim your link says no URL and steam search cant find it either.


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    The link you followed does not appear to be a valid URL.

    Odd, link works fine for me. Not that I have much use for it with my old Nvidia card

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    BTW,a poster on Anandtech forums noticed that the new socketed Jaguar chips are now made at GF.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Now, that is interesting! I wonder if that's why they weren't released along with the BGA parts?

    I suppose having GCN and Jaguar ported to GF could ease the transition for the console chips if they chose to multi-source them as has historically happened, e.g. the 360's 90nm Xenon was made at both IBM and Chartered, but that came later IIRC.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Odd, link works fine for me. Not that I have much use for it with my old Nvidia card
    saying that the link to the page worked but it woldnt find the file when the page link is clicked
    Last edited by dfour; 26-03-2014 at 09:18 AM.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    ECS announces an FM2+ thin-ITX motherboard:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/199223/ec...therboard.html

    Strangely,it uses Intel cooler mountings.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Strangely,it uses Intel cooler mountings.
    I'd guess that the clips on a standard (A|F)M(1|2|3)[+] cooler mounting make it impossible to produce a slim enough cooler for a slim-itx enclosure. At that point they're stuck with either leaving off the retaining clips and hoping people can find the right bolt-through solution, or going for a different cooler mounting.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Desktop Kabini review at Anantech forums has been updated with power measurements with a more efficient PSU. Based on my own testing of PSUs at low wattages though, I suspect there's still some room to drop consumption with a PicoPSU and decent power brick for instance.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Blimey I thought that was long dead. ISTM they bought PCs based on hype rather than the reviews which quite clearly said it was slow. The information was out there, I don't see how they have a case.

    Amusing timing with the Pentium anniversary stuff coming out of Intel though

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Story of a socket FM2 FX processor in an HP built machine:

    http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2..._surfaced.html

    So sounds like AMD doing another HP special fused off part, but the naming is interesting.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Anandtech have an article about the Apple CPU: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7910/a...cture-detailed

    Issue width of 6 is beyond wide and into completely mental territory. If they can do a variant that can hit 3GHz, then I don't see why they need Intel any more.

    It also strikes me that such a wide setup is crying out for multi threading.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Wait what? SIX? When I first read that I thought you were on about functional units!

    Yeah I guess I'll have to have a read through that article to see how/why they've done that? Even on desktop workloads I though 4-wide was often hard to fully utilise, hence Bulldozer. But Apple obviously don't seem to have lost a ton of power/performance like you'd expect going that wide!

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Wait what? SIX? When I first read that I thought you were on about functional units!

    Yeah I guess I'll have to have a read through that article to see how/why they've done that? Even on desktop workloads I though 4-wide was often hard to fully utilise, hence Bulldozer. But Apple obviously don't seem to have lost a ton of power/performance like you'd expect going that wide!
    4 is very hard to utilise, hence mobile designs usually top out at 2 to stay well away form diminishing returns and be power efficient.

    As for why, performance at all costs. How? Throw transistors at it

    Even at the low clocks, I have to be impressed at the power consumption.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Apple going desktop ARM?

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