Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

[TheDutyPaid]

I think I am being sold on the idea of an after market cooler, but which one. What is best for a very tight case and a I7?

I am not to keen on the on the rad type that blow warm air in to the case.

[AETAaAS]

AFAIK it's down to TDP - AMD actually have 3 coolers: a slim profile cooler (about 43mm tall) which is rated to 65W and a taller version of the same cooler which is rated to 100W and look like the top one, and the heatpipe cooler which I think is rated to 140W. I believe the 95W TDP FX CPUs come with the non-heatpipe cooler (although I'll be happy to be corrected).

I stand corrected. Didn't know they made an even smaller cooler. I already think the 100W one is a little pokey.

@Duty; depends on a number of factors. What kind of clearance are you looking at. 'Small' ranges from anything like a Silverstone SG05 in which case I will recommend something like the Cooler Master GeminII M4, to something really small like an Akasa ISK100 in which case, I'd go for a Noctua L9I or Scythe Kozuti. If you got height to spare, a 'compact' cooler could be something like the Hyper TX3. Bigger than that, and it's the big boy coolers.

Also, radiators don't have to blow warm air into the case, you can set up the fans such that they are exhausts.

[TheDutyPaid]

On a side note, they would you need to use a socket heater? socket area heater

[theanalyzer]

On a side note, they would you need to use a socket heater?

I believe that's only used to keep the circuits warm when using liquid nitrogen cooling. Dont need that for air / water coolers.

[DanceswithUnix]

AFAIK it's down to TDP - AMD actually have 3 coolers: a slim profile cooler (about 43mm tall) which is rated to 65W and a taller version of the same cooler which is rated to 100W and look like the top one, and the heatpipe cooler which I think is rated to 140W. I believe the 95W TDP FX CPUs come with the non-heatpipe cooler (although I'll be happy to be corrected).



This was the stock 100W TDP AMD cooler - youcan see the difference between the 65W and 100W coolers, and the Zalman I swapped the stock fan out for, in my review thread: http://forums.hexus.net/reader-revie...le-review.html

If you didn't like the 100W fan, then good job you didn't get the 140W heatpipe one. I had a couple sat around (one from my wife's 965BE and one from my 8350, both Cooler Master built), so I put one in my daughter's Trinity APU based machine and one on my LLano based home server. It made them *really* noisy, I will try swapping the fan from the 100W one onto the 140W heatsink to see if that helps, if not I swap them back to stock fans.

Why would they make a heatpipe design, and then put a little 70mm fan on it?

Edit to add: Now if I had a 3D printer, I could make an adapter for a 92mm fan. I know I could buy an entire PC for the cost of a 3D printer, but I'm trying to justify a toy here

[scaryjim]

It'd be interesting to see whether the fans are tuned differently for RPM purposes - the stock cooler from my Sempron 140 was almost silent, but I think that's more due to being a 65W design on a 45W CPU. If they use the same fan on all three coolers, then I'm not at all surprised that it sounds awful on the 140W version - I doubt it can generate anywhere near enough airflow to deal with that heat effective.

It might be worth trying to find a 25mm depth 70mm fan to replace the stock one with: you'd need to come up with a cunning way of fixing it in place, but it could help with the airflow and reduce the fan noise...

[AETAaAS]

If you still want to use that heatsink, have a look here. Someone else had the same idea already.

http://www.quietpc.com/afdp-7025b

[DanceswithUnix]

Interesting. These days 70mm fans are a pretty weird size, I was thinking I would have to replace the whole thing.

Sadly these are in SFF cases, so heatsinks I already have kicking around won't fit.

[ChinesePate]

I'm using a stockie with my 4670k, I won't change it until I change my GPU, only then I will start with OCing it

[Bonebreaker777]

I do believe a socket warmer is used to prevent the vapor condensation.
Sorry if I am wrong.

[DanceswithUnix]

I had a look at switching fans, and it seems the one on the 100W heatsink has little legs on it to hold it away from the extruded heatsink, the 140W one is normal and just clips in. So I would need to attack it with a dremel to make it fit, and that is at the back of the garage somewhere.

Otherwise the fan on the 100W heatsink turns out to have a CoolerMaster label on the bottom (underneath, can only see it when removed) and apart from the leg mouldings looks identical to the one on the 140W heatpipe model.

So I am still using the wrong stock fan on my new server, not two stock fans bodged together

[aidanjt]

Stock HSFs used to be awful, but nowadays they get the job done and they aren't the rattly noise monsters they used to be thanks to modern motherboard fan management and PWM they're practically inaudible 99% of the time. If you're on a budget, give the stock HSF a shot first. You'll probably be surprised.

[Butcher]

Edit to add: Now if I had a 3D printer, I could make an adapter for a 92mm fan. I know I could buy an entire PC for the cost of a 3D printer, but I'm trying to justify a toy here

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_3725.html
Only adapts to 80mm but better than nothing...


On the original question, I ran the stock HSF on my i7 for a couple of years. It worked, although it wasn't that quiet and would get gummed up with dust pretty easily (which made it really noisy). Running water now.

[TheDutyPaid]

I have seen a lot of after market coolers can cover and even block the RAM sockets when using RAM with built in heat sinks. Is there any way to check said cooler, mobo and RAM will work together?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

There are several iterations of the AMD heatpipe cooler. The latest ones are actually slightly lower profile than the 100W TDP APU stock cooler. My mate plonked one from an FX6350 on an X4 760K and it seems to do a decent job.

One thing though,is that because the stock coolers tend to be horizontal orientated,the VRMs tend to get some cooling as well.

[DanceswithUnix]

http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_3725.html
Only adapts to 80mm but better than nothing...

Cheers, though this is in a Coolermaster Elite 120 case so I only have about 10mm to work with. I think I just have to bite the bullet and buy a new heatsink.

There are several iterations of the AMD heatpipe cooler. The latest ones are actually slightly lower profile than the 100W TDP APU stock cooler. My mate plonked one from an FX6350 on an X4 760K and it seems to do a decent job.

One thing though,is that because the stock coolers tend to be horizontal orientated,the VRMs tend to get some cooling as well.

Yes it is quite low profile, if they had allowed for a 92mm fan it would be a really nice bit of kit.