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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

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    I wonder if coating a Al heat sink with ceramic makes any BIG difference.
    Might do. If a pure ceramic heatsink is too brittle to handle then perhaps it needs a structural lightweight metal carrier to make it more robust (or maybe cheaper to produce, I don't know how they manufacture these things). In that case ceramic is really the heatsink.

    OTOH, gold plated HDMI cables go to show you don't need any measurable difference to make things sell

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonebreaker777 View Post
    Ouch. Ceramic heat sinks? Sound interesting but I can't imagine big heat sinks made out of ceramic. Heavy. Fragile.

    I wonder if coating a Al heat sink with ceramic makes any BIG difference.
    Ceramic heat sinks are strong think more of a roasting dish then a tea cup they are highly thermally conductive as well. Often made from alumina and aluminum nitride. A New range of Micro Porous Ceramic Heat Sinks (MPCHS) are starting to come on the market, due to the open irregular structure of the Micro Porous Ceramic, the heat sinks provide a greater surface area to contact with the air compared to metal. Due to this structure, the heat sinks have excellent heat dissipation and heat convection properties.

    The MPCHS dissipates heat faster than metal heat sinks without storing heat within itself. MPCHS heat sinks are made from the lowest thermal capacity material in unit volume compared to traditional copper and aluminum solutions. The surface area of the MPCHS is greater than metal heat sinks by around 30%; hence, more surface area to contact air and dissipate more heat in a set unit time. Being non-metallic they also help ensure a reduction in any possible EMI/EMC issues.

    A ceramic heat sink of similar size to a stock Intel fan could dispense with the copper heat transfer block and fan and probably would still run cooler. Why don't we see them for sale? This maybe because of cost, think of what you could get for £50 at the moment, then in ceramic £50 would just about cover 1 RAM chip. Stock AMD / Intel size would cost about £600 ~ 800 so a great heat sink or a Titan GPU.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    If there are many grades of ceramic, would this new MPCHS be as strong as existing types?

    I know my mom had a ceramic baking dish and I accidentally knocked it off the kitchen counter onto a marble floor. I closed my eyes and grit my teeth for the expected shatter, but instead was alarmed by an almighty 'WHANG!' as the dish bounced off the marble floor and landed on a nearby chair.

    Agree on the cost issue... Stock coolers are built down to a price. That £50 you mentioned is more expensive than some processors on sale. Hell, Overclockers have the A4-4000 APU for less than £30 this week.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Oh well, all hail the current aluminum heatsink kings.
    About that A4-4000 APU does include a cooler as well. Cheap as chips I might say. As long as they are not from Burger King.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Just another question I thought of today.

    Do any coolers block the GPU socket on a MATX mobo? I plan on using ASUS Gryphon Z87 with a low profile cooler something like this SilverStone NT06-PRO

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    The clearance around an mATX CPU socket is typically the same as an ATX motherboard, since mATX usually just chops off the lower PCI slots and leaves most of the rest of the board intact. The main problems tend to circle around mini-ITX boards which are really a special case (see Asus' high end Z77 and Z87 boards with their vertical panels to cram in more components ).

    Images of NT06 Pro installed.
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    I don't see any problems, even RAM with tall heat spreaders are fine. Only hitch I can see is if the VRMs have tall heatsinks, which the motherboard you selected doesn't particularly have.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    will only swap the stock cooler after overclocking

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Yes, the stock fan is too noisy!

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    I found stock fans/coolers in non-specialized towers with standard fans pretty quiet.
    And most new MoBos support intelligent automatic adjustment anyway.
    Obviously works for non-OCd CPUs only.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Only if the machine is under load often, that's the one area were stock cooling really falls down on. The noise is quite noticeable.
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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    I am using stock fan with fx 6300, its doing its job am thinking of upgrading just to make the system a little quieter

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Oh the two computers, I have an aftermarket on the one thats overclocked and stock on the one that isnt.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    I use the retail fan, but only because I haven't got around to sorting out an after market one yet.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Still using stock fan - I would only use an aftermarket one if anyone was overclocking the CPU.

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    Last 3x Intel PCs I built are all using stock cooler.
    With some FAN management they can easily handle stock i5 with case FANs present (both the CPU and case FANs have speed reduced).

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    Re: Does Anyone Use The Stock Fan?

    I used the stock fan of my Phenom II X3 720 for a while after the fan on the Freezer 64 Pro I was using died. It was noisy. Maybe they've improved a bit in the past five years though.

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