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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    I also think its a way to shorten the life span of the CPU's (20 degree higher in temperatures by using thermal compound and not soldering must shorten the life of the CPU)

    Intel until recently had no competition, and every intel CPU i3-i5-i7 generation was never a massive jump in performance on release not like it used to be in the 386-P2-P3-P4-Athlon64 days.

    I mean i have a i7 920 2.6ghz CPU in a drawer when the motherboard died i moved onto Z170 i5 3.5ghz skylake and did not see an increase in performance really actually maybe a small decrease. (it was an i7 to i5 downgrade though, but a 8 year gap should have been a massive upgrade and it was not)

    Ryzen has changed all that and when i do upgrade thanks to AMD, an 8 core CPU's will be the minimum i will be buying.

    The link below is an i7 920 vs a Skylake i7 6700k not a massive jump in performance for 8 years is it?.
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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    SKL/KL/CFL did see some decent jump in games though, especially FO4 partly due to the improved memory controller since the game loves high speed RAM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    SKL/KL/CFL did see some decent jump in games though, especially FO4 partly due to the improved memory controller since the game loves high speed RAM.
    Yes thats why i tried to overclock my DDR4 2400mhz to 2800mhz or higher as it is noticably better in some games, but sadly i have had to remove the ram overclock 1.35V is the highest safe voltage i could get the DDR4 upto but kept getting POST problems (this happened before the CPU overclock) so now i have stuck with the 4.5ghz overclock and leaving the RAM at defaults sadly..

    I suppose newer Intel are much better at power usage too.
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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    beautiful thread

    good work , thats saved you hundred and hundreds of pounds on a new rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    beautiful thread

    good work , thats saved you hundred and hundreds of pounds on a new rig.
    Thank you, i am hoping it will save others hundreds and hundreds as well especially in this uncertain brexit world we live in now.
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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    So thought i would give an update, i am still overclocking the delidded 6600K to 4.5ghz from 3.5ghz and its had one post error which seems strange so a friend give me a better heat sink for it.

    It is a Coolermaster tpc800 not the easiest to fit, when i took my old heatsink off i had used the pea application and i could tell it was not in the centre of the CPU and maybe not quite enough of it, so after quite a bit of research i settled with the X for the thermal application as it give the least air bubbles and covers the whole CPU when it is clamped in place with the Heatsink.

    Here are the results..

    Rise of the tomb raider benchmark temperatures are now 48c vs 51c (which is a small improvement) and OCCT is now 52c down from 73c which is massively better! my idle temp is down from 34c to 28c (from cold its 17c) so very happy with the results so far.

    Just hope i dont see another post error, then i will get greedy and try for 5ghz
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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    I wouldn't personally go much above 4.7-8 friend. I used to have a 6600k now I'm on R1700

    it's a lot better even at 3.9GHz

    Thanks so much for the interesting thread. I believe the notional reason Intel is using hand cream as a thermal compound is due to the longevity of the thermal interface material compared to some industrial liquid metal products.

    I may not have that accurate but I believe it's likely that and cost.

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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    Thread 'stickied'. Very interesting and may be of use to others - of course anyone trying this is taking a risk, and will void the mfrs warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
    I wouldn't personally go much above 4.7-8 friend. I used to have a 6600k now I'm on R1700

    it's a lot better even at 3.9GHz

    Thanks so much for the interesting thread. I believe the notional reason Intel is using hand cream as a thermal compound is due to the longevity of the thermal interface material compared to some industrial liquid metal products.

    I may not have that accurate but I believe it's likely that and cost.

    Great thread! Cat you made my head hurt lol
    That maybe true, from what i have read liquid metal has to be changed roughly every 2 years (or when the temperature's start to rise) also soldering a CPU (Which intel used to do) causes a higher failure rate in manufacture so thermal is cheaper and more cost effective i guess.

    Looked at benchmarks of 3.5ghz vs 4ghz vs 5ghz and from what i can see not much increase in FPS so i may stay with 4.5ghz (for now..) But i love it that no game goes about 58c or any benchmark so nice quiet and cooler

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Thread 'stickied'. Very interesting and may be of use to others - of course anyone trying this is taking a risk, and will void the mfrs warranty.
    Yes that's why i waited at least a couple of years two do it, And thanks for the sticky (My first!)
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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    Congratulations on getting it stuck!

    I wonder if HEXUS would allow me to link my original article that Ravens Nest followed?

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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoonigan View Post
    Congratulations on getting it stuck!

    I wonder if HEXUS would allow me to link my original article that Ravens Nest followed?
    sadly not Hoons. I love you site as much as many do, but it's a fully fledged hardware site, commerically driven and to drive traffic there isn't the right thing to do for HEXUS. Soz dude.

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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    Well, just to add further credibility to Ravens Nest's thread, here are my personal results on my 7700K under a Corsair H150i Pro RGB.

    Idle temps

    Left to idle for 10 minutes after booting

    Load temps

    Prime95 for 30 minutes - maximum core temperature measured

    As you can see, the drop was absolutely massive and far more drastic than I'd ever thought it could be. For the sake of 30 minutes work, if that, the results are incredible. I was regularly hitting 70°C+ just during gaming and seeing temperatures into the 90s @ stock clocks during stress testing. The Corsair H150i Pro RGB is an insanely capable CPU cooler and is able to shift more than enough heat away from a CPU, but if the heat can't get out of the CPU Die efficiently, the whole process breaks down.

    I even managed a 5.0GHz overclock on the 7700K while remaining way below the stock-TIM temperatures @ stock speeds.


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    firece temp drop

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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    One thing I'm curious about - I thought the heatspreaders were aluminium, and so unsuitable for use with gallium-containing liquid metals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    One thing I'm curious about - I thought the heatspreaders were aluminium, and so unsuitable for use with gallium-containing liquid metals?
    Nah, the vast majority are nickel plated copper. But you're right about the gallium->aluminium being a bad thing.

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    Re: My 6600K DELID steps and overclocking results! (With advice from Hoonigan)

    Very interesting Hoonigan !

    I would assume with the 8700k i7 part and the possible upcoming anniversary special edition intel Central Processor that 'delidding' and liquid metal may be really close to a necessity. More cores! Same tech! Same old 'engineering'!

    I put that in quotes since Intel should have fixed Spectre and Meltdown many years ago, they were warned REALLY early and didn't do a thing.


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