Earn your game gold by yourself or get it by money?

[kalniel]

If you want a WoW comparison, it would be a bit like if blizzard started selling gold, although there's something inherently wrong with a subscription based MMO selling in game currency

Eve?

[Memoigxe]

?? EVE is good...some friends play it lol~~~

[Singh400]

It really depends on the game. Tribes: Ascend allows you to buy gold which you can use to unlock items. It's not a pay to win model, it's a pay to accelerate model.

[Pob255]

It really depends on the game. Tribes: Ascend allows you to buy gold which you can use to unlock items. It's not a pay to win model, it's a pay to accelerate model.

WoT is the same, the crew skill is the closest bit to pay-to-win but crew skill isn't the be all and end all and it can still be gained via grind.

@Pob255 i believe that there is any game need, there is buying and selling

ahh but who does it and how? and I greatly refute the "need" people don't "need" to buy farmed gold, they could get it them selves if they spent the same amount of time farming.
yes big farming operations actually employ teams of people who farm round the clock, so one person couldn't generate what they do in a week but could generate the same amount over the same total number of manhours
However then you get the issue that farmers can and have crippled ingame economies which means that the only way people can afford to get stuff ingame is to buy gold from farmers or farm them selves.
And yes there has been a couple of MMO's that have basically been ruined by farming, which is part of the reason they are held in such low reguard.

The way many free-to-play game have overcome it, is to make an official 2nd currancy which means they can keep better control over both the ingame economy and outpricing farmers.
As long as the 2nd currency price point is good enough then farmers would have to sell the 1st currency so low as too no longer be able to make a good return on it.

[Memoigxe]

ahh but who does it and how? and I greatly refute the "need" people don't "need" to buy farmed gold, they could get it them selves if they spent the same amount of time farming.
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For this poin, don't you think it's more convenient to buy from some where? Yes, people surely can get it buy themselves, but who'd like to wast time to farm it if they can save this time to do any other things?

[kalniel]

but who'd like to wast time to farm it if they can save this time to do any other things?

So if playing the game is a waste of time.. why are you playing it?

[Memoigxe]

So if playing the game is a waste of time.. why are you playing it?

i'm not meaning that play game itself is wasting time, just refer to "farming" as there's more convenient way to get what you farm....

[kalniel]

i'm not meaning that play game itself is wasting time, just refer to "farming" as there's more convenient way to get what you farm....

But farming's part of the game right? It wouldn't be there if it wasn't meant to be fun. If you don't enjoy it then you're playing the wrong game.

[Memoigxe]

But farming's part of the game right? It wouldn't be there if it wasn't meant to be fun. If you don't enjoy it then you're playing the wrong game.

Yes, it's surely a part of the game
well, different people have the different views.
many gamers prefer to pay for their needs, for example, a great item, then they use this item to arm themselves, right? Then, they can quickly enjoy the higher game level, right?

That's the main point why i say saving time to enjoy more

@kalniel Kalniel, do you believe this proverb "No discord, no concord " ?

[kalniel]

Yes, it's surely a part of the game
well, different people have the different views.
many gamers prefer to pay for their needs, for example, a great item, then they use this item to arm themselves, right? Then, they can quickly enjoy the higher game level, right?

But why would they play such a game if they don't enjoy the journey? There are plenty of other games to play where you appear powerful early on if that's what they wanted. Unless of course, it is a game designed so that farming is boring in order to make you want to spend on official ways of speeding that up. I've no problem with that - as it'd be the intention of the designers (though I wouldn't play such a game personally). It's the games which have third parties attempt to provide shortcuts that the designers didn't intend that I disagree with.

@kalniel Kalniel, do you believe this proverb "No discord, no concord " ?

It's not a proverb, but a Chinese saying right? I hadn't heard it before, but understand what it's getting at.

PS I think it's great that you have joined Hexus and are taking your time to explain the reasoning behind your actions (I am presuming you are pro-gold selling for business reasons). I applaud this approach, especially as English is not your first language, yet your posts are far more engaging than those which others in the same area might be making.

[Memoigxe]

OMG...I can only say "OMG"....some how i can continue active in this forum....
thanks!