i've justs een vide and screnshot clips of the new pc game callled F.E.A.R and OMG this looks nearly has good has those games comming out on these new consoles. u see pc's are already close to being on the same level has these consoles and their not even out yet!! trust me, by the time the new consoles come out, the pcs will b more powerful
The MP Beta I played of FEAR was a HUGE dissapointment the graphics didnt look half as good as expected and it ran pretty badly. Hopefully they will sort it before release though as I was lookign forward to it.
The unreal engine 3 looks just that, unreal! I mean, in 12 months time when we have the next gen PC graphics cards, PC's will be back on top graphics wise.
Unreal 3 looks like a camel's arse frankly. I think that's more ham-fisted artwork than the engine itself though. Runs like a dog to boot (20 fps tops on my 6800GTs in SLi, well done Epic!)
Have you programmed a PS2 and compared it to a PC? I have. PS2, despite it's idiosyncrasies, is still easier than PCs because if it works on one PS2 it works on the other 80 million as well. With PCs they are all different which is a major pain in the posterior.Originally Posted by dangerous_dom
Yup plenty of MCVs sitting around these parts, interesting to see the sales figures in them - particularly xbox vs NGC.
Wow sold 250,000 copies in it's first day. That's pretty impressive, but consider that Halo 2 sold 2.38 million copies in it's first day (more than WoW's total sales) and GTA:SA wasn't far behind that. IIRC GTA sold in excess of 5 million copies in 2 months; PC games just can't touch those sort of sales.
PCs will pretty much always have better hardware than consoles, but consoles are massively more popular than them despite that. Xbox was slightly better than PCs when released and quickly fell behind, but games for it still massively outsell PC titles. Consoles aren't sold on being better than PCs technically so that's a non-issue.
Last edited by Butcher; 23-05-2005 at 07:33 PM.
anyway, in answer to the thread topic, "they did years ago"
Not personally developed for the PS2, but i was a software developer before changing my direction to for social work. I fully understand the implication's of coding for different platforms. I have an old school friend who is team leader at a large London based PS2 games developer, and have talked about this on many occations. Coding the PS2 is a bitch - but has got better with the better SDK's. Coding for PC's is fairly easy in that it's an x86 based architecture which has been around for donkeys. Saying that, even with API's such as DirectX, cross compatibility with the infinate hardware configs out there does cause problems as you say.
Also on features like online gaming and downloadable content, consoles still are very watered versions of PC functionallity. The modding community in PC games keeps it fresh and interesting. I don't know quite how this will work for consoles. The thing i fear about is that the major manufactures, such as Sony, will have too much control and try to make money from it all. Thats what I love about PC gaming. Control and customisation and such better levals. Using Tony Hawks skate park editor does not count as proper modding.
But to survive, there does need to be radical changes to the industry and development cycles of games and hardware. The hardware we have to so under used because developers are lazy (time = money, i guess) and just expect people to upgrade rather than them spend more time optimising code. We need to stop this insane power race and regain some sanity. I think the likes of ATI and nVidia will have to sell thier products cheaper too, or they will play their part in the industries downfall and thier own too.
I do take your points, as I hope you take mine. I strongly believe thier will be a strong, if smaller than consoles, amount of people who want PC gaming for the forseable future. I don't think all the millions of current and future PC gamers and enthusiasts are going to hang up thier mice just yet. Console gamers and PC gamers and such different breeds. And it does to matter what you say, these new consoles will be around for up to 5 years without an update. Before then PC games will be kicking console ass again. I guess we will have to disagree for the time being on this one. Time will tell and who knows where we will be in a few years.
Am i making any sense? maybe, maybe not. I need a beer!...
Cheers.
Oh, and Butcher, you made a mistake in your post. You quoted something Directhex said as being what i said. I think you need a beer
It may have been said before , like everything else if there is an easy way of the end user doing something they will do
so putting a disc into your ps2 or xbox and knowing it will work will always be more benificial than loading a game into your pc and hoping your gpu cpu etc are up to the task. Same goes for everything shopping etc etc , but there will be a market for pc users too maybe not as big though
You do make sense. I don't think that PC gaming will die, but it's not bigger than consoles and it's not going to become bigger than consoles in the forseeable future. You are right when you say the customisability and such of PC games makes them very attractive to some people. I believe that that sort of flexibility and customisability is the key point that will keep PC gaming alive.Am i making any sense? maybe, maybe not. I need a beer!...
They're still a real pain to program though (x86 is pretty stable but GFX hardware is not in the least to say nothing of sound etc.).
Just had a beer, but yes I did misquote there, oops.Oh, and Butcher, you made a mistake in your post. You quoted something Directhex said as being what i said. I think you need a beer
Thats true, but wich game will make more money? Id wager a hefty sum its WoW, as many hundreds of thousands of players will keep paying for the game month on month, and then in 6-9 months time there will be an expansion pack and another 500,000 units sold. I think youa re looking at the wrong sales figures for WoW, it sold 250,000 in its first day of release in Europe didnt it? that didnt include the US or Asian releases. Either way, Blizzard are now sitting on a massive cash cow with long term profitability built in, whereas Bungee now have a period of very little income with wich to work on their next game and then get a nother sudden large influc of cash etc.
Any company would prefer to have a good regular stream of income over sudden bursts of income that rely on each product release being a success. For this reason, MMOGS are here to stay and PC gaming is here to stay with it.
read this thread, very interesting...
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=906626
seems like both consoles where showing off pre rendered game footages, i think that means its over hyped. meaning these machines cant produce these so called breathtaking graphics we have all seen in these consoles.. looks like these consoles are just has powerful has my 9800 pro LOL
Last edited by jonneymendoza; 23-05-2005 at 11:06 PM.
try running that through a spellchecker
yea man is their a spell checker here? im using a dodgy keyboard mate, they are called typos
Thatll teach me for not checking this threadI was on about graphics capabilities, in the not to distant future, even thought the PS3 looks stunning, PCs will overtake them
Then bring on the PS4
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Jonney, curse your for making this thread. Its not true its lies terrible lies. Consoles will never take over pc games, becuase 1 - people arnt likely to pay 3k for someting they can only play games on through there crappy low res tv. Where as a pc!
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