I would buy the console just for zelda. I am a bit of a fanboy but I really think I will love some of the games.
For the gamecube i only liked select titles pretty much all of them 1st party.
But forget about wii looking 'sad' please. As has been pointed out before, the wii isnt mass graphicly dependent, Put simply i think if you like guitar hero. or playing games with your mates. You will like the Wii whether you are to stuborn to admit it or not
Look I didn't want to hurt anyones e-feelings by saying this but what the hell.
I didn't order the wee on the premise that the games look like poo. I have the 360 and I know it's going to beat the ps3 (people don't like me saying that either) but the damn thing is just damn hard to programme for... be smart and stick to the 360 and let fanyboys take the ps3 (I have a ps myself and it was excellent - at the time) ...where microsoft know their sdk's and have the talent and many times more financial muscle to make it a success
in conclusion the wii is poo ironically
so in your view, the only thing that matters in a game is graphics?Originally Posted by AlCapacino
and on what basis are you commenting on the quality of the SDKs? worked with any of them?
I like a balance of graphics and gameplay but the wii just doesn't do it for me on first appearance at least... and I've been through all the platforms...
The SDK's are simply reputed to be among the best out there according to dev blogs, but the PS3 (regardless of SDK) has simply been said to be hard to programme for. And even if they find its sweet spot at some time it may be too late.
Seems like after all that chatter about being impartial you end of sounding like a MS Xbox 360 fanboy.
Stealth Geek - And Proud!
I got... I was impartial until recently, but I used my jungle instincts when deciding to buy one or not
Last edited by AlCapacino; 10-11-2006 at 05:52 PM.
Well I didn't expect this to turn into a 360 vs Ps3 vs poo *cough* I mean wee, but more along the lines of 'do you think it'll be fun?", and from most of the comments etc seems like it is going to be just that.
Thanks for the comments/advice guys.
How hard a console is to program for is totally irrelavent really - and even if this did have an effect it would be likely that those that are simple to program for are going to be of poorer quality...everyone knows the dangers of RAD development right?
Look at the NES/N64 as two examples I have a knowledge of coding for (as a 'fun' excercise..never professionally) - they were NOT easy to program for..the NES was damn near to assembler that you had to know in terms of complexity (although it was a custom language created for the NES) and both those systems had a massive selection of great games...Harder to code for means only the best programmers can really do it, which is only a good thing
Who wants lots of games released by the likes of JoWood? not me
Good points.How hard a console is to program for is totally irrelavent really - and even if this did have an effect it would be likely that those that are simple to program for are going to be of poorer quality...everyone knows the dangers of RAD development right?
Look at the NES/N64 as two examples I have a knowledge of coding for (as a 'fun' excercise..never professionally) - they were NOT easy to program for..the NES was damn near to assembler that you had to know in terms of complexity (although it was a custom language created for the NES) and both those systems had a massive selection of great games...Harder to code for means only the best programmers can really do it, which is only a good thing
Who wants lots of games released by the likes of JoWood? not me
However, with JoWood, I was working with them some years ago. They are good guys and very talented (taking on quite a challenging project) but a major let down for them was the publisher with financial problems.
fair enough on JoWood..but I have yet to play a 'good' game from them, I was using them as an example of one of the many development companies that produce not-so-great games
Of course there is nothing to stop you ignoring the SDK and re-writing your own functions to be optimised for your application (This is what most of the bigger game companies do I expect [or hope!] )
actually I'm getting this wrong, I should say wings simulations with JoWood being the publisher.fair enough on JoWood..but I have yet to play a 'good' game from them, I was using them as an example of one of the many development companies that produce not-so-great games
Of course there is nothing to stop you ignoring the SDK and re-writing your own functions to be optimised for your application (This is what most of the bigger game companies do I expect [or hope!] )
Most people will be getting the Wii to play Zelda most of all, and that is looking beautiful from what I've seen. Regardless of that (and this is what DirectHex keeps saying, but its completely true unless you are a nob) its the gameplay - how much fun you can have with the games on that system, that really matters.
Zelda is looking amazing, and thats a nice bonus, but its because of how the game plays that people already know this is likely to be a masterpiece, tons of fun to play, and as such the reason for getting the console in the first place.
The videos I've seen of Mario Galaxy were very impressive as well, great visualy and looking like typical Nintendo first party game design for their flagship series.
There are more AAA titles in those 2 series than any other; no other series of games has been of consistantly high quailty from however you look at it. Everyone loves Mario, everyone loves Zelda, the fans consider most of the games classics, the reviewers give them consistantly high scores, they place in IGN and Gamespots 'Best 100 Games Ever' features, and they sell millions upon millions of units.
Ocarina of Time was voted best game ever by IGN, Super Mario Bros 3 has sold more than 40 million units, blah, blah, blah.
So, appriciate that owning the console on which you can play the next games in the series is a massive draw. Almost everyone who is getting a Wii is going to get Zelda, almost everyone who gets it will think its superb.
To ignore all that and discount the Wii because the 360 and PS3 will have more impressive visuals would be very much the wrong thing to do.
This isn't the GameFAQs forums, so I'm not getting into these things, where everyone has to say 'fanboy' every 3 words, and you have to say 'x will beat x', when it doesn't matter either way to anyone outside the Sony \ Microsoft \ Nintendo offices. Just buy the one that has the games you want, play them, and don't worry yourself with nonsense statements like this.I have the 360 and I know it's going to beat the ps3 (people don't like me saying that either) but the damn thing is just damn hard to programme for... be smart and stick to the 360 and let fanyboys take the ps3 (I have a ps myself and it was excellent - at the time) ...where microsoft know their sdk's and have the talent and many times more financial muscle to make it a success
Last edited by Stewart; 10-11-2006 at 07:20 PM.
Wash your mouth of with soap!!!
Seriously, zelda : ocarina of time, remains my favourite ever game i've played. Simply awesome and miles head of its time.
That being said...those graphics looks decidedly under average :/
I was all for getting a Wii for it's playful and 'party style' controls which would be great for entertaining...but if the graphics look like that, i'm more likely to plug a few ps2 pads into the pc and have a multiplayer PES6 tournament or something
Prime example - how many of you played Zelda on the gamecube?
The graphics on that were HORRIBLE - totally Cell shaded..which is nice if you like that kind of thing but for a Zelda game - especially after we were treated with Ocarina of time - I didn't think it was very good at all.
Despite that though, the game was immensely fun to play and kept me hooked right until the end..it may have had horrible gfx but it was fun to play; and that's what matters
Just one example of a fairly recent game with huge success but poor graphics..
Stewart, I understand what you are saying but I'm a bit more 'unsure' about Wii after Zelda, i.e. we get it, we finish it - we love it (lots of weeeeing, ok that just sounds wrong). But after this, the titles for it could be a bit 'hrm...'.
Decided to go for this instead,
http://play.com/Games/GameCube/4-/56...s/Product.html
...for now.
Last edited by bsodmike; 10-11-2006 at 08:21 PM.
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