A UK based overclocking competition, what say ye?

[ikonia]

people gave views and reasons/critisism why it was a bad idea. The idea wasn't "beat down" he asked if it was a good idea, the people who posted said no, he didn't say "I want to do this - let me know if you want to be part of it" in which case all the people would have not posted. Its not a shame John recieved the response he did, as thats what asking if its a good idea is all about, its good that he got the feed back on his question rather than an empty thread.

As pointed out Hexus runs competitions, and if you've orginised two of these in the past why not orginise more. But as you can see the response from the people posting on this thread is negative to the idea.

[Clunk]

Thats a nice overclock in your sig Highland3r, is that on sub zero cooling?

[Highland3r]

The core2 ones are yes. The AB9 used stock heatsink with some dry ice resting on top. 4.7 was under DICE

Regarding not organising more, simply don't have the time now - working full time sucks

[Agent]

.....Yes Hexus do a few competitions but as I'd said before, their more raffle based than actually skill end based.

Overclocking by its very own definition is largely 'the luck of the draw'.
You could end up with a chip that wont go over 10mhz, or one that could go over a gighz. Which brings us back to the money situation - If you get a bad chip, people will want to buy a newer one in the hope of gaining more.

Its just impossible to make a level playing ground for everyone in a competition like this unless everyone in the competition was to use the exact same hardware (and I mean *THE SAME* literally), because otherwise the components people got would be based on luck again, and not skill.

Inviting people to come and try and overclock the same system, with the same cooling and equipment would just be impossible for something like this.

[Agent]

There ARE ways of making stuff like this fair, trust me.....Basically, the only thing the compeition is measured upon is increased GPU speeds....

Which is luck based.
Somone gets a card which can overclock by 100mhz, and another guy gets one that can overclock by 10mhz - how does skill come into that at all?
The only sure fire way of making it fair is by getting people to use the *exact* same hardware, literally.

Just to "beat" the idea down without asking questions really doesn't seem fair. It was only a suggestion by John and constructive criticism would surely be better?

Im not sure if you're reading the same thread as us, but no one has "beat" down the idea. A question was posted for peoples input, and that's what people did. Just because it wasn't in-line with what the OP was hoping for doesn't mean it was in anyway not constructive. Infact, quite the opposite in this case.

Maybe there just aren't the overclockers in the community here to embrace such an idea. 25 quid for a lot of fun is well worth the cash imo, it's the fun of pushing hardware rather than winning some shiny toys.

Maybe, but £25 can be a lot for some people. Plus, if they are just buying it to enter the competition and don't actually need the hardware, the prizes would need to be *really* good.
To be honest, I think the majority of overclockers on these forums would prefer to spend that £25 on helping overclock, or upgrade their current system and not risk gambling it on some hardware for a competition.

Shame John received the reaction he did, would be great to get another comp up and running!

Confused by this?
Not sure what 'reaction' he received exactly? Everyone in this thread has been perfectly polite when explaining why they don't think its a good idea.

[BUFF]

Firstly, categories by cooling help split the phase guys from the aircoolers so really you can't use that as an argument.

Actually you can if it isn't done & I cited a case where it wasn't.
& I quote:
"There will be two different groups of competitors for you to join; one is for users of the Intel 975X chipset (AW9D-MAX and AW9D), and the other one is for users of the Intel P965 chipset (AB9 PRO, AB9). You are required to use one of these motherboards, but there are no limitations for other types of equipment (i.e. the choice of CPU, memory and VGA-card(s) is completely up to you)."
(my bold)
That means that a guy on air could be competing against someone on LN2 which is why I didn't enter.

[Clunk]

Chuck Norris won it last year using a stock cooler.

[Johnny Bravo]

Right both sides have spoken and it's obvious that the general consensus is that it's not a good idea.

So we'll leave it at that.

While I may not agree fully I will submit to the views of the masses. Yes if the hardware was all replicated exactlt for everyone then it would be down to pure skill, and yet competitions like this still happen. I guess things like car races arn't really fair because they all use differnt cars as well. In all competition there's gonna be luck involved but I think your extremes in difference are a little, well, extreme

But regardless I see little point in continuing this thread as wer're just going ot rebuttle on another on the pros and cons of a hardware based competition. I guess it's back to the raffles!

[finlay666]

I'm guessing you were reffering to the ATi comp on XS as a basis for your idea?

You really need a massive overclocking forum for it, I ended up having an arguement with a 'competition organiser' for another forum because it was an overclockers forum, he has never overclocked and doesnt understand the ethos and associated risk about it and was basically a "see you next tuesday" about it

[BUFF]

I guess things like car races arn't really fair because they all use differnt cars as well.

Which all conform to pretty strict rules - you don't e.g. tend to see Formula 1 cars competing against touring cars.
& yet even within those strict regimes usually (Toyota excepted ) the ones at the top are also the ones with the highest budgets.

[BEANFro Elite]

LOL, it'd be like Fast and Furious for PCs, LOL I can see it now, yes, going around with your PC and you ping someone to say you want an overclocking duel, LOL!

Sorry, I can't help but agree with Ikonia, but if its something you truly believe in your heart would work both fairly and effectively, then go for it, don't let anyone get in the way of your dream dude

Thats what I did, and now I'm a drummer and a sparky LOL!