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just sums up this season doesn't it lol
This stories just been updated, I don't think the stewards will do anythingOriginally Posted by Mithrandir
While I'd have rather liked to see Hamilton win, I'm satisfied, personally, that Alonso didn't, because I think his antics this year have been disloyal and disgraceful, the unflattering pouting of a spoilt brat.
I'm not a Ferrari fan, but Kimi has driven a superb season (or at least, second half of it), and drove a superb race. And Championship-wise, I have to say that Hamilton lost it as much as Kimi won it. A rather ineffectual start followed by that very unconventional lap 1 move on Alonso were, in my view, a bit of a panic reaction and the mark of a less-than-seasoned racer. I know it's a split-second decision and that 20:20 hindsight is easy, but I still feel he may have lost it right there.
Sure, the car problem he had later he couldn't have predicted, and I still don't quite follow the rationale for the length of his second stop, the fuel load he got at the end or the need for that third stop, but without his early incident, which was (IMHO) entirely down to naive over-aggressiveness (and not wanting to get screwed over by Alonso of all people), who's to say what strategy would have been used, what tyres used when or what fuel loads loaded. It could all have been very different, but for those lap 1 events.
Personally, although Lewis was my preferred winner, I'm not sad to see Kimi win the Championship. He's a superb driver, and arguably, overdue for it. Also, losing might help Hamilton from developing an oversized ego. A bit of humility now might well stand him in good stead in years to come.
It would also be a shame to see track results overturned as a result of a fuel inquiry. It's leave a bad taste in the mouth in a year that's already destroyed what vestigial interest I had left in F1. I rather doubt that stewards will disqualify anyone if it leads to a revision in the championship title, unless there's overwhelming evidence of deliberate malfeasance on the fuel. It'd be a sad end to a very sad year.
But then, I suppose if it gave some teams an advantage that may have cost Hamilton the Championship (and I repeat, IF it did) then I guess he deserves to have it given to him. If the fuel was outside regs, deliberately or otherwise, then there has to be consequences, especially if it may have altered the championship results. But disqualifying? Dunno about that.
In any event, Alonso didn't win. That leaves me smirking with satisfaction.
I'm a big McMerc fan, but I'm glad we came out of the season with nowt. If we'd won anything at all it would have been tainted by the spygate stuff.
And I'm even more chuffed that niether of the spoilt, childish, overpaid muppets in the driving seats won anything. Ideally they'd both be in other cars next year, but I guess one will need to do. Let's have Heikki, he seems like someone I could cheer without grudging him it.
Hopefully we'll learn the truth about the Fernando situation (and I believe it's less clear cut than our papers would have you believe) and we'll be able to make decisions based on what truth comes out. And hopefully once he's gone we'll see Lewis' true speed, without any assistance with settings and the like.
And hopefully long term Lewis will learn that even if he thinks he's the best thing on four wheels, acting that way isn't always for the best. Self-belief is one thing, but there's a lot to be said for quiet confidence. I guess the McLaren brainwashing will have a lot to do with that though.
*edit*Just reading all the latest news, if the standings are changed it'll just make even more of a mockery of this season. Utter, utter write off...
Inquiry casts doubt on F1 title, lead story on BBC News website. As someone said, you could not make it up.
Lets hope someone other than us has been cheating...
The Beeb (and elsewhere) have updated their articles to confirm no penalty is being enforced.
There's already a storm brewing on the F1 websites with Mike Gascoyne among others stating that there would be a noticeable performance advantage with fuels cooled.
Wonder how long it'll be before our wonderful tabloids start running the "Lewis conned!" headlines...
Id say tomorrow morning
McLaren are going to appeal the decision.
This season is not quite done...
Yeah the rookie beat the world champion in the same car - that's good enough for me.
Sorry to be a killjoy but why is there a drivers championship?
It must be the weakest competition in sport!
A four horse race! At best! (Sometimes, as with in Brazil, it's just a two horse race!)
And those two horses are told to stop racing each other during the last laps.
At least in horse racing the 'vehicles' are handicapped to make a reasonable competition.
I also heard someone say Hamilton could be the first rookie to win in his first year.
Has anyone else been given one of the only four horses that could possibly win in his first year?
Or been nurtured for ten years by the stable beforehand?
As soon as Ferrari got some reliability (second part of the season) they showed their superiority.
How far ahead would they have been if they had had that reliability from the start?
Hamilton will only win a World Championship if the CARS change in some way, or if he's in a Ferrari.
It seems to be that simple.
I think Saracen summed it all up very well. In the last two races Hamilton finally demonstrated a lack of judgment that was devastating, he should have insisted on coming in for new tires as soon as Kimi passed him in China and should never have tried to retake 3rd place in Brazil. Well done to Raikonnen, he's certainly been battling for a WDC long enough, and managed to snatch it in fine style.
Next year Hamilton will have a chance to do it right without suffering all the childish jealousy from both other drivers and followers of the sport that has marked the second half of this season. In some way this is better for his long-term career.
Next year he'll probably have to do it without any help from his team mate. He'll probably be the no.1 driver, if such a thing existed of course...
I don't think it's just jealousy. Some of us just really don't like the bloke.without suffering all the childish jealousy from both other drivers and followers of the sport that has marked the second half of this season.
RUBBISH RUBBISH RUBBISH!
If he'd come in to the pits a lap earlier in China, and lost a couple of places but still won several points, he'd have won the drivers championship this year.
It's too easy to say that, there's just too many "if's" in a season to say the reason he failed was because of that one instance. The championship is decided over the course of a season, and these things seem to have a way of balancing out over the year.
In that instance, he lost out because of his own mistake. A week earlier Alonso lost it in the rain, so in theory if that hadn't happened Alonso would have won the championship. If Ferrari had had reliability all season it's have been an even clearer cut Ferrari win.
IMO it was a fair result, and let's draw a line under this season and move on. For all the sport gained new fans because of Lewis, I bet it also lost a fair few because of all the petty politics.
Last edited by bigblue; 23-10-2007 at 02:47 AM.
Interesting article on hamiltons biggest mistake it Brazil it now appears - F1-Live.com
"If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much room!"
- me, 2005
thats not something you want to be doing in a race :S
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