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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    wow thanks! I'd like to thank my mum, my dad, and god. *bursts into tears*

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    santa its not that you werent allowed to mention his name from as far as i can tell, its the fact that you were pointing the finger of blame at him for the person being suspended.

    As for freedom of expression/ speach, every has freedom of this, except when your pointing your big red finger of blame at someone.

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

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    this thread is a whole lotta stupid
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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    I think the whole "freedom of Speech" thing shouldn't be paraded about on these forums, its never really existed on here as long as I've been registered.

    Thats not to say this place is an oppressive regime run by tyrants, I think the message that goes on here is that if you run your mouth carelessly then expect to be chastised for it, in a proportionate manner.

    I personally believe freedom of speech doesn't exist these days and it shouldn't as it saddens me how many people take it for granted unawares that the more influence you have the more responsibilty for your words you should have.

    On this issue however, I have not read the thread that the original poster is referring to so I can't comment on that, but I tend to like to prove my point about things and to shut people up, but if you (heXus) feel you are right, I think you should have left the original thread intact as late comers like me could have had a fairer opinion.

    However, as has been mentioned before, you agree to abide by the rules of this forum when you register, so if you didn't read the rules and terms and conditions then thats your own fault

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    What a strange thread! Of course Hexus has to have rules. Having a free-for-all puts the legal position of Hexus into question.

    If people want to say anything and everything then they should start their own forum and see how long it stays up!

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    I saw an interesting thing recently at an American forum run by James Randi, the magician. Randi is being sued by some idiot because some of the other members called him a moron and a liar (he was both). Randi had nothing to do with it, except that it's his site and the rules clearly say that he's not responsible for anything more than moderating the site.

    So Randi's innocent, but still has to spend money defending himself from a stupid lawsuit brought by a moron and a liar.

    This is why fora such as Hexus have to be careful, not because one or two of us may be a bit volatile, but because one may be a litigious moron. Right or wrong, Hexus is still in the firing line when members start to squabble.

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by BEANFro Elite View Post
    I think the whole "freedom of Speech" thing shouldn't be paraded about on these forums, its never really existed on here as long as I've been registered.

    Thats not to say this place is an oppressive regime run by tyrants, I think the message that goes on here is that if you run your mouth carelessly then expect to be chastised for it, in a proportionate manner.

    I personally believe freedom of speech doesn't exist these days and it shouldn't as it saddens me how many people take it for granted unawares that the more influence you have the more responsibilty for your words you should have.

    On this issue however, I have not read the thread that the original poster is referring to so I can't comment on that, but I tend to like to prove my point about things and to shut people up, but if you (heXus) feel you are right, I think you should have left the original thread intact as late comers like me could have had a fairer opinion.

    However, as has been mentioned before, you agree to abide by the rules of this forum when you register, so if you didn't read the rules and terms and conditions then thats your own fault

    I am the OP of this thread. The intention was for it to generate a thought-provoking discussion on a subject that a moderator immediately disassociated with relevant information. It was inevitable at that point that subsequent posts were in danger of losing the focus needed for (to use the words of that moderator) the adult discussion that was to follow. And so it has been.

    But the thread still has legs. Perhaps this is because intelligent people here do enjoy debate. Please bear in mind that I am already under threat of suspension/ban. I now have to be guarded in what I say despite staying within the Hexus rules and my own self imposed rules of decency when communicating with others. This was and still is the nub of my OP.

    I am confused by rules that can lead to the suspension of a contributor for taking issue with an offensive remark made by someone else. What followed smacks of retribution for a crime not committed.

    Saracen, you are reading this, why have you not commented? I notice you thanked a contribuor in this thread so you are around influencing your supporters.

    To those who feel this thread is unnecessary I would say that Hexus is a big place. This is a single thread amongst thousands; plenty for you to choose from and there is no obligation for you to contribute here. To those who have added value to the discussion, I am grateful. I, for one, am more than happy to hear views contrary to my own.
    Last edited by santa claus; 24-11-2007 at 03:26 PM.

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by santa claus View Post
    Saracen, you are reading this, why have you not commented?
    Probably because he's not obliged to
    Then again, when saying
    Quote Originally Posted by santa claus View Post
    I will no longer contribute to this thread
    He probably took your word for it. Just food for thought

    A quick point though

    Quote Originally Posted by santa claus View Post
    The link was removed by a mod, so I'm told, to facilitate adult discussion.
    The link was removed and the title changed due to the nature of it. A title of "User X Vs User Y" is not acceptable, more so when one of those users is not able to post. If someone was to post a thread titled "Santa Claus Vs Whoever" it would be treated in exactly the same way. The title came across as flame bait.
    Most of the forums I know would have just closed the thread there and then, I think that just editing the title and pointing out that it wasn't acceptable is far more 'adult' than just closing it.

    The 'banning' wasn't my department, so I won't comment on it, but please keep in mind that the mod's & admins are not required to answer every / any posts on here. They have been chosen because the site owner thinks that when they use their discretion, their decision would be in line with what he would have done.
    Not only that, but at the moment the user has only been suspended as far as I can see and not banned. That will come at the discretion of someone higher. Again, this isn't my department, but that's correct as far as I can see.

    If you feel that you require forums with stricter rules defined then I suggest you start your search here. They will happily welcome a new member that likes a good debate, more so when its about how they run things
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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    The link was removed and the title changed due to the nature of it. A title of "User X Vs User Y" is not acceptable, more so when one of those users is not able to post. If someone was to post a thread titled "Santa Claus Vs Whoever" it would be treated in exactly the same way. The title came across as flame bait.
    Most of the forums I know would have just closed the thread there and then, I think that just editing the title and pointing out that it wasn't acceptable is far more 'adult' than just closing it.

    The 'banning' wasn't my department, so I won't comment on it, but please keep in mind that the mod's & admins are not required to answer every / any posts on here. They have been chosen because the site owner thinks that when they use their discretion, their decision would be in line with what he would have done.
    Not only that, but at the moment the user has only been suspended as far as I can see and not banned. That will come at the discretion of someone higher. Again, this isn't my department, but that's correct as far as I can see.
    Thank you. Point taken with regard to the original thread title. However, the removal of the link did undermine the direction of subsequent posts, surely it could have remained?

    Incidentally, speaking not as a mod but as a Hexus member and forum contributor, what is your personal view on the suspension please? I know it is not your department, but given that you know all the circumstances, what is your opinion?

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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by santa claus View Post
    I am confused by rules that can lead to the suspension of a contributor for taking issue with an offensive remark made by someone else. What followed smacks of retribution for a crime not committed.
    Except there was no offensive remark made.

    There was a misunderstanding over a comment a person made, which another person blew out of all proportion and in the process ignored the terms and conditions of membership.

    That's it.

    If the member had taken a step back and hadn't posted the final comments, then the member wouldn't have had their membership suspended.

    Please stop trying to turn this into something this isn't.

    You are not under threat of anything so long as you follow the rules and regulations of the forum, which are very clearly set out.

    These forums are usually a very friendly place but occasionally some people attempt to test just how far they can push the rules and the forum staff, for no other reason than sort of odd personal gratification, which is frankly mystifying.

    Some rules are in place to protect HEXUS from a legal standpoint, others are to maintain the friendly community atmosphere.

    If a member of the forum staff ask you to do something, then it's usually for a very good reason, sometimes it may be needed from a legal point of view, others to maintain the friendly atmosphere (basically not attacking other members or staff), and sometimes just from a purely moderating perspective (something which is enough of a tangent to divert the flow of discussion, so further discussion in a separate thread is encouraged or enforced depending on the severity of the disruption).

    These rules have been in place for many years and have stood the test of time, if a user finds that they cannot agree with them, then perhaps HEXUS isn't the place for them - but many thousands of people are perfectly happy with them.
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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    About the link: No idea. I didn't see the orignal context it was written in. Although if it was mixed with that thread title, it probably didn't help matters

    As for my opinion - I've not had time to read over anything in detail, nor will I have time today. I don't generally bother with GD much. Sorry
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
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    Re: Forum Rules & Freedom of Expression

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoo View Post
    Except there was no offensive remark made.

    There was a misunderstanding over a comment a person made, which another person blew out of all proportion and in the process ignored the terms and conditions of membership.

    That's it.

    If the member had taken a step back and hadn't posted the final comments, then the member wouldn't have had their membership suspended.

    Please stop trying to turn this into something this isn't.

    You are not under threat of anything so long as you follow the rules and regulations of the forum, which are very clearly set out.
    About the link: No idea. I didn't see the orignal context it was written in. Although if it was mixed with that thread title, it probably didn't help matters

    As for my opinion - I've not had time to read over anything in detail, nor will I have time today. I don't generally bother with GD much. Sorry
    Gentlemen, it's a bit like walking on eggshells isn't it? We are either unwilling or unable to mention the thread in question, the names of those concerned and the nature of the comments made and I think this probably draws the subject of the OP to a natural conclusion. Thank you.

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