I now own a Mains Power Metering Device....

[GAteKeeper]

my mum and dad use the gas cooker

Even worse!!! At least kettles are designed to do one thing well, that is trasfer energy into heating water. Using a gas hob (or any hob for that matter) for heating water is just plain wasteful.

GK

[Dareos]

agreed! no cooking food from now on, its all raw meat and beer!!

[Dreaming]

Even worse!!! At least kettles are designed to do one thing well, that is trasfer energy into heating water. Using a gas hob (or any hob for that matter) for heating water is just plain wasteful.

GK

But electricity comes from gas anyway.

Gas -> heat -> electricity -> heat

is probably less efficient than

Gas -> heat

But then again the filament of a kettle is completely submerged, whereas with gas lots of the energy is wasted heating air. If we could burn the gas underwater...

[Agent]

But electricity comes from gas anyway.

That purely depends on what station it comes from.
~20% of our electrical power in the UK is from Nuclear alone.

[lodore]

Hey Zak,
have you checked a sky box yet?
if not and you have one please test!
if you have tested already tell me on which page its on.
can you give me a link to what device your using?
i might buy one to test my stuff.
im sure i can persudae my parents to buy one.
i can always pop to b and Q
thanks
lodore

[moogle]

Even worse!!! At least kettles are designed to do one thing well, that is trasfer energy into heating water. Using a gas hob (or any hob for that matter) for heating water is just plain wasteful.

GK

Power, power... The gas may be less efficient than electric but it costs less but it doesn't draw electricity except for that tiny spark That's what my post was about. But then again a kettle can't cook food can it? Then if you'd bring up an electric hob then it'd still lose heat to the air like gas but cost more.

But then again the filament of a kettle is completely submerged, whereas with gas lots of the energy is wasted heating air.

well think of it as saving you using your central heating

[Ramedge]

Zak, Just out of interest now you have almost worked out how much electricity you can save how much do you estimate you can save monthly or quarterly?

[Behemoth]

Cool stuff Zak, I've been throwing the switch pretty much every night on my PC gear now anyway, I'm guessing with PC, speakers, 2 external HDD's and a TFT that I'm pulling near around the 50 watts area with it all in standby after reading the results you've got.

Great post. many thanks indeed

[[GSV]Trig]

Next time your near mine pop it in, be interesting how much my setup uses as it all comes to the PC's via my UPS, which incidentally always seems to be filtering high voltage...

[moogle]

19" Hyundai CRT - 9W Idle - 60 - 75W while on.
It seems 9 is the magic idle/standby number.

[beanbandit]

Hey Zak,
have you checked a sky box yet?
if not and you have one please test!
if you have tested already tell me on which page its on.
can you give me a link to what device your using?
i might buy one to test my stuff.
im sure i can persudae my parents to buy one.
i can always pop to b and Q
thanks
lodore

set-top boxes (80Gb Sky+ is 11w standby, 23w in standard viewing, forgot to check when watching something from the Hdd)

There we go

[matty-hodgson]

could you test a lamp with a standard bulb in?
and then test it again with an 'energy saving' bulb in aswell and see how much you actually save?

could be interesting..

[Marcos]

But electricity comes from gas anyway.

Gas -> heat -> electricity -> heat

is probably less efficient than

Gas -> heat

But then again the filament of a kettle is completely submerged, whereas with gas lots of the energy is wasted heating air. If we could burn the gas underwater...

seen the new induction hobs? its like electric hob but the heat is transferred directly through the contact patch

[TiG]

erm........

Gives matty an ounce of common sense........

You ever wondered what the 100W or 60W meant?

TiG

[Marcos]

19" Hyundai CRT - 9W Idle - 60 - 75W while on.
It seems 9 is the magic idle/standby number.

how much does the watt device take? or is it battery operated?

[SiM]

erm........

Gives matty an ounce of common sense........

You ever wondered what the 100W or 60W meant?

TiG

But they may not be 100% efficient