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About LinkBacksNot always, I won't mention any examples here though...Originally Posted by KeZZeR
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Not always, I won't mention any examples here though...You give anything some love, and it'll give you love back
try & keep on topic, ladies
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It seems BetaNews has an update...
Windows Source Leak Traces Back to Mainsoft
EXCLUSIVE BetaNews has learned that Thursday's leak of the Windows 2000 source code originated not from Microsoft, but from long-time Redmond partner Mainsoft.
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Clues to the source code's origin lie in a "core dump" file, which is left by the Linux operating system to record the memory a program is using when it crashes. Further investigation by BetaNews revealed the machine was likely used by Mainsoft's Director of Technology, Eyal Alaluf.
References to MainWin can also be found throughout the leaked source files, which do not compile into a usable form of Windows.
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I will....Not always, I won't mention any examples here though...
ex girlfriends and that cow natalie imbruglia, i have given her my love for 6 years and what do i get nothing but a restraining order and hairy palms.
Oh yeah and i think my computer still has mixed feelings towards me.
"The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being." Karl Marx
If the actual fabric of what windows is made of, the source code, is out there, then will it actually be possible for microsoft to "patch this" ? I mean how do you patch the core of what a product is made of ?
Does anyone here think that ms will release any sort of patch or even a small service pack.. or at least somthing to help with this problem.
Please, Oh please someone say yes.
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Seen the film, but I totally forgot what you were saying as I was looking at Rachael Leigh CookYou wanna watch the film Antitrust...Looks like Milo is real, and has gone behind his back to release the source code to the world. I wonder if it was based around him at all?
Is it me or does Tim Robbins look too much like Billy Gates in this film??
You wanna watch the film Antitrust...
Is it me or does Tim Robbins look too much like Billy Gates in this film??
Lol I just watched it now and HE IS Bill Gates, surely there is some sort reference towards him kinda. And microsoft for that matter.
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I think this whole situation will absolutely suck for the open source community.
I'm siding with some of the opinons on /.
If somebody so much as looks at the source - we might end up with them writing code influenced by that. Take something like Samba, that enables Linux computers to use windows filesharing. MS's Lawyers need only find likenesses to their code and say "they took our source code and used it when writing this..." or even worse segments of it are actually copied!
While now things look bad for MS - I bet their lawyers have an attack plan laid out already.
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revol you have obviously never programmed something ever in your life.
Proramming in C or C++ takes hours to do, and requires A LOT of hard work. There are bound to be bugs in it, especially in something as big as windows. Validation takes a long time to do correctly even for just the small 500-1000 line programs that i'm writing while i'm learning.
If i was <a microsoft developer> I wouldnt want the whole world to be able to just steal my work. Ok so normaly coding rights (the code is copyrighted by whoever wrote it) dont apply as anything written is owned by M$ but the principle is just the same. Just cos M$ is rich doesnt meant that they arnt entitled to normal rights...
ur correct about me having never programmed but ur wrong about M$. If microsoft let their source code be widely available it would mean that thousandfs of programmers could work on it. Anyways u missed my point which was that owning information and knowledge is complete bull excretment! imagine if doctors had took the same approach to their work. As it is intellectual property rights are hindering progress in a great many areas, people are dying in africa because they can't afford anti-aids drugs and the companies who own the "rights" are opposed to the wide scale production of generic drugs.
You can argue that people should have their hard work acknowledged but my point is that they don't anyway because the ceo etc of the companies actually own the rights not the programmer or medical research doin all the work. Also there was no intellectual property rights back in Beethovens day but he stil gets his kudos.
let me once agian point out that my principle point is against the monopolising of knowledge for the benefit of profits.
and anyway i think linux has proven the superiority of open source....
"The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being." Karl Marx
yeah and i have never actually sat down and proven gravity but im sure as hell glad that Isaac newton did'nt work for Microsoft.
"The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being." Karl Marx
yeah, but if he did, there would a GNU project on Gravety
MS provides the hooks (interface documentation) for the world to use, and develop for MS products. Same with any other developer. Linux is really the exception - and that was created more out of the desire to move Unix off PDP11's, and onto departmental mini computers (and then onto desktops) - Unix provides a well documented interface, ditto with Windows (NT4, 2k, XP)
Linux however, the full source code is available for anybody who would like to further development of the operating system!
It's a complete difference, and I think in general people provide source code for explicitly this reason.
It's a company's intellectual property when their developers create a product. If it goes EOL, then it's at their discretion whether or not to release the source code - if people then re-engineer the software, then the original company still owns the copyright, unless, of course they release it into the public domain. Even then they may enforce rules - standard under the GPL is that it may not be sold for profit. However, you can sell support, installation - and pretty much any other money making solution.
At the end of the day, that's why most of us are in the industry. Fine, writing funky code is one thing - but it doesn't pay the bills.
Bill Gates got to where he is today by being an astute business man - one step ahead of the competition. Remember the days when IBM owned the desktop market? Didn't want to have to dick about with deskop os's... bought some software off a company, but Gates came along, offered to take over responsibility.
Voila, MS was born, IBM lost millions.
You look at any other software company out there... if they see the business requirement to have their own userbase develop plugins for them, then they will get people to sign an NDA, give them the documentation on the interfaces within the code... and say "Go forth and develop my children". Not... "Go on, take our source code, steal it - it's only one copy.... What does it really matter?"
Shareholders will revolt, they'll be under investigation, and they'll have class-action suits up the wazoo.
my point is that business is now standing in the way of development, capitalism now extends into patents in knowledge and we now have biotech companies patenting bacteria they find.. its crazy enough that someone can fence off a piece of land and call it theirs (its been there for millions of years ffs) but it is totally off the wall that someone should own knowledge.
neither am i singling out microsoft they are just the biggest fish in the pond, microsoft are just a sympton capitalism is the disease
"The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being." Karl Marx
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