Ohh someone who can understand the mental torture of that job. I use to go home knackered,
fall alseep then dream about being at work doing the job and then I would get up and go there.
It was proper torture. Thankfully it was only a few months between school and college.
After college and during uni I worked from BPC which became polestar, working on the sitma's and
muller's.
it was East MidlandsOriginally Posted by TheAnimus
It was significantly after 1997, because it was one of the election issues that year.
A quick google confirms that it came in in 1999. From memory it was about £4 an hour for over 18s (significantly less for under 18s). I can't be bothered to exercise my google muscles sufficiently to find out exactly...
it's always interesting hearing from peoples perspectives of this era from other areas. but where i lived we had an influx of Geordies looking for mining work, after all the mines in Newcastle had closed. after major open cast mining, all the easy money had gone and Thatcher then closed down the pits in my area too.. at the time i was too young to work but, my father lost his job (in IT) and had to take a job in Reading. In the late 80's, there was nothing in my area. Glue sniffing, theft and the dole. Swastikas everywhere, and i still remember in 6 foot high letters "Thatcher Out" at the local car park (lasted for years)! No one had work and at in my home town, and it was officially the most violent in the UK (it even made it on Panorama). there was an old brick factory in town also, which housed only glue sniffers, it was like something out of a post apocalyptic novel. Death everywhere, But this was like this is a fair few northern mining towns.. and although my parents are middle class and it did not effect all people in the area. the town was a no go area after dark.
Don't be surprised to see mass celebration, fireworks and street parties in the north when Thatcher finally dies. (although the BBC might choose not to show it)
but you're correct, things were better by 96, but we were so far behind, opportunity was still a year or 2 away. and £1.61 was better than the dole.
IIRc the minimum wage was about £3.60 for people over 21, people under no help at all.
I found it quite funny how my paperround worked out at about £1.20 per hour, but then I found I could do KP work (illegally, I was under 16!) for about £4.20 because of the shortage, but that was very seasonal.
The thing is I can't help buy feel from ur response that the anti-thatcher lot where glue sniffers......
The problem is they lack perspective of what could well be the end result of another 12 years of brownian motionin our countries debts.
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yes i don't deny the national debt could be best sorted out by a Tory government.. and i don't really want labour for this reason. i know we are in for pain again, but is a fairer pain not possible?IIRc the minimum wage was about £3.60 for people over 21, people under no help at all.
I found it quite funny how my paperround worked out at about £1.20 per hour, but then I found I could do KP work (illegally, I was under 16!) for about £4.20 because of the shortage, but that was very seasonal.
The thing is I can't help buy feel from ur response that the anti-thatcher lot where glue sniffers......
The problem is they lack perspective of what could well be the end result of another 12 years of brownian motion
What is the Lib-Dem's proposed solution on debt in the UK?
No matter who gets in there is nothing they can do about it getting worse, its inevitable.
Just look at the percentage of people with mortgages who are on interest only, if the
interest rates go up (which I think they will) they are in the cack.
http://www.libdems.org.uk/siteFiles/...20finances.pdf
not sure!! i trust Vince Cable more than the other 2 though
nope Kumagoro, thanks to help the rich get richer Labour house prices have gone up 10.5% in my post code these last 12 months......
They are fine, so long as it is a gradual thing, and the market dosen't become too saturated, the drop shouldn't be more survere than 3 years house price increase, and for the last 18 months you just can't get interest only unless your 75%+ LTV......
As such they won't be too much of a worry.
j1979, I'd sooner take the pain short and sharp now, rather than linger on for a generation. The governor of the Bank of England said it best, whoever is elected next could be un-electable for a generation, that is assuming they do what he thinks is required, and he is in quite a good place to know what needs to be done.....
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In short. ***king retarded.
We're going to lower taxes....
Yes, we believe that, I've already seen one firm I used to work for piss off to geneva over the 50% tax. Almost everyone on 6 figures has now been moved.
Why would you live in England when any other country would bend over backwards to take you, over better quality of life in many respects and not tax you.
As 'the city' is constantly suffering a lack of skilled recruits, hence the high pay, they will bend over backwards, its makes little difference to them if they are in London, Hong Kong or Geneva. If a government wants to increase tax on the banks, it has to be unilateral, otherwise it just wont work.
As such I can't help but think the Lib Dems policies are somewhat lacking, I don't think they ever thought they had a chance when they proposed them off been elected....
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sure... and i hope if the Tories get in, this is what they do. Too many civil servants doing pointless jobs, but on the other hand, lots of NHS workers doing an amazing job with less and less resources.
Tax credits are one area i want to see go! I really don't see the point. Why not have a fair system in the first place? not 100's of extra civil servants doing a job for the sake of it. It's just pointless inefficiency. pointless inefficiency is how i will remember the last ever labour government. I hope Cameron is fairer than the likes of Thatcher though
Well we shall see Animus, we shall see.
I'm with you on that, however i am still voting Lib Dem...
Why?
Because they are the only ones with even a hint of ditching the first past the post system, as they are the only "main party" that it would benefit.
Lib Dems are fundamentally flawed in many key areas, to the point where under other circumstances i just wouldn't vote for them, however, they are still the only ones that keep pushing for an actual democracy [well, the only ones with a chance of having even a slight, minute, minuscule, modicum of an influence, and even that is pushing it]...
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Indeed - what could be fairer than the people who are willing to get off their ass and work for a living being taxed to hell in order to fund the lazy and incompetent. Hurrah for Labour.
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