Scottish Person Charged for Illegal Music

[Stringent]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-13603003

Goes on the back of that piracy thread I guess.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

They must have been some offensive tunes!!

[finlay666]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...w.google.co.uk

I find that a far more offensive music collection (NSFW language)

[chuckskull]

On a more serious note this is the way it should be handled, rather than civil cases as has been in the past. If for no other reason than fairness, you can't pit individual citizen's against multi-national conglomerates and expect fair results. While not perfect a criminal case at least redresses this balance, if the record industry wants to keep harping on with it's "Infringement is a crime" tagline then it needs to behave in the same way the victim of any other crime is expected to and inform the police and allow them to do their work, not use their wealth and power to take matters into their own hands even if they use the thin veneer of legality a civil case provides, and especially not using the blatant extortion tactics we saw last year in this country.

[Biscuit]

On a more serious note this is the way it should be handled, rather than civil cases as has been in the past. If for no other reason than fairness, you can't pit individual citizen's against multi-national conglomerates and expect fair results. While not perfect a criminal case at least redresses this balance, if the record industry wants to keep harping on with it's "Infringement is a crime" tagline then it needs to behave in the same way the victim of any other crime is expected to and inform the police and allow them to do their work, not use their wealth and power to take matters into their own hands even if they use the thin veneer of legality a civil case provides, and especially not using the blatant extortion tactics we saw last year in this country.

Well said!

[jackobyte]

On a more serious note this is the way it should be handled, rather than civil cases as has been in the past. If for no other reason than fairness, you can't pit individual citizen's against multi-national conglomerates and expect fair results. While not perfect a criminal case at least redresses this balance, if the record industry wants to keep harping on with it's "Infringement is a crime" tagline then it needs to behave in the same way the victim of any other crime is expected to and inform the police and allow them to do their work, not use their wealth and power to take matters into their own hands even if they use the thin veneer of legality a civil case provides, and especially not using the blatant extortion tactics we saw last year in this country.

very well put chuckskull,and luckily for joe public they used crooked law firms to do it,and got bit on the a**.sadly these multi conglomerates have been ripping us off for years and even the "fine" they request is a rip off,in reality heavy fines don't put off serious pirates at all.
maybe if they didn't keep trawling out "greatest hits or re mastered copy" every five mins to cash in
and concentrated on "the music for once" it would help

[Zadock]

Well said!

+1

Dealt with in this way it takes away allot of this culture of defiance and fighting the big corporations. I get the sense from a lot of illegal downloaders that they feel like they are fighting for some sort of cause by doing it, and that it gives them justification.

[pollaxe]

Another +1 to what Chuckskull said.

On a less serious note, I was half-hoping that this thread meant that bagpipes had been made illegal.

I continue to live in hope.

[Spud1]

There is just one thing that I don't understand here:

Defence lawyer Lorenzo Alonzi said his client, an auxiliary nurse at Ayr Hospital, had not used the network for any financial gain, but to build up her self-esteem

How does pirating music help with self-esteem???

[roachcoach]

I don't recall exactly and can't be bother to check (sorry) but I think it was the mental state coupled with the actual collecting, rather than downloading which boosted it.

Not sure, mental illnesses break all "expected" rules.


Edit: Perhaps someone should point out she was only pinched by the cops for illegal upload and therefore, distribution, it was not the downloading they went after her for (and IANAL but I don't think the police can lift downloaders).

[peterb]

There is just one thing that I don't understand here:



How does pirating music help with self-esteem???

E-peen music collection?

(Hmm - maybe not e-peen exactly - in this case. )

[scaryjim]

E-peen music collection?

The vast majority of it was karaoke tunes - I fail to see any way in which that could boost either an e-peen, or one's self-esteem...

[finlay666]

The vast majority of it was karaoke tunes - I fail to see any way in which that could boost either an e-peen, or one's self-esteem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwimc4cvUmQ

[jackobyte]

Another +1 to what Chuckskull said.

On a less serious note, I was half-hoping that this thread meant that bagpipes had been made illegal.

I continue to live in hope.

och laddie gie us yer hame address an i'll belt a wee tune oot fer yeh
on ma pipes at 3 in morning ....no charge as ya lovin the wee bagpipes an awe

lol

[Zak33]

They seized computer equipment and found 7,493 digital music files and 24,243 karaoke files - worth an estimated £54,792 in the mainstream market.

how the HELL are Karaoke files worth more than the steam off my ..... tea? let alone tens of thousands of quidz.

[Zak33]

och laddie gie us yer hame address an i'll belt a wee tune oot fer yeh
on ma pipes at 3 in morning ....no charge as ya lovin the wee bagpipes an awe

lol

he will neh ken ya mon