people who talk about the good old days are obviously too old to take in the excitment of last season.
silverstone last year one of THE BEST races ever, monaco this year amazing and loads of other races from the past year.
so stop complaining about F1 and try watching a race
WE do.. i think most folk that have spoken out in this thread watch F1 mate.. It just seems to be missing something at the moment.
I watch it. because it is often on at the same time as the cricket. Now THAT is watching paint dryno chance of the batsmen crashing at 200mph.
Totally agree. We want to see these awesome prototype vehicles and the benefit to us is that much of the technology eventually finds it's way into our road cars. But we want to see racing. That's what I pay for when I go to a race event. I want to see drivers out-driving each other not technology showing how much quicker one prototype is than another in a lab environment.Originally Posted by killgORE
Indycar has a good system whereby it limits what the teams can do and keeps the playing field as level as possible. This throws up some excellent racing. Dunno about you lot but I'd like to see a championship that has the potential to go to the last round of the season with a group of top drivers fighting for the top spot.
World superbikes, for example, 4 riders within 8 points of each other. Anybody's title with very few rounds left to go.
"You want loyalty? ......get a dog!"
emm wait a minute maybe u all have short term memory loss, but last season there was 3 drivers going for title with 2 races to go and the championship wasnt decided until the last race at suzuka.
but of course since all people want to do is complain they forget that
The way I see it most people here are race fans who just want to see a more dynamic format. And how much of last seasons results were affected by car reliability as opposed to drivers out racing each other? The reason I ask is I honestly don't know, I hardly watched it. The current format is akin to trainspotting. Bike 500 GP were in the same rut when Doohan was winning everything and wouldn't move from Honda. It became boring. Now it's a much more exciting format and the fans are coming back. Which is a good thing because sponsors are getting more brand awareness and that in turn attracts more sponsors.
I know of at least two people here who own race/rally cars, a sidecar racer and I have my own race bike. My son races in a kart endurance team. So far from complaining, people who are actively involved in the sport are simply putting a view across. Aren't motorsport fans entitled to a view?
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"You want loyalty? ......get a dog!"
neeeoooooowwwwww
few mins later, neeeoooooowwwwww ...
i cant control the adrenaline :|
ill moan about F1 on TV, its a good day out though if you go and visit the track :> same with rallying, sucks on TV, good fun seeing cars flip over in front of you irl :>
er, if your northbridge fan is humming loudly, disconnect it. _dont_ kick the side of the case, it _will_ break it.
i know :/
Amen, brothers, we've seen the light. Rossi and a Yamaha is proving to be a fantastically interesting combination to watch - much to Biaggi's irritation, I'm sure.
I'll even get a kick from watching Saloon Car races, Caterham races or Fiesta racing, for pities sake, but F1 seemingly is all about pit stops and race strategy. It's little more than a bunch of cars folllowing each other round the track and very high speed, followed by a few moments tension to see if the pit crew cock up or not.
For those of you that enjoy F1, I'm glad for you, I really am. For me, though, all the fun went out of it several years ago and while this season's changes are an improvement, it needs a complete rethink, not a few minor tweaks, to get me back interested. It's a shame, because I used to love it.
i will admit that moto gp this season is one amazing to watch but only cause rossi si away from the best bike. once shumacher has gone or ferrari mess up we will be back to closer racing. although even the dominace throughs up exciting races so trues fans should stick by the sport instead of complaining
Thing is mate, F1 isn't about the sport, it's about the money. Bernie Ecclestone doesn't give a toss whether the racing is exciting or not, he just wants to get as many sponsors putting money in his pocket as possible. It stopped being run for the fans a long time ago. How much is a weekend ticket to Silverstone now? £150 or something silly like that?
F1 is stupid, the technical regulations mean that as soon as anyone invents something that might give them a speed advantage, that technology gets banned. Is there any good reason why they still shouldn't be using cars with fan assisted downforce, active suspension, continuously variable gearboxes etc.? No. They all got banned because one team might have had an advantage for a few races while the others caught up. Nowadays, I can't think of a single bit of F1 technology that hasn't made it onto road cars in some shape or form (apart from pneumatic valves admittedly, but we have every other type of variable valve timing). The specifications for building the cars are so limiting and exact that all the cars on the grid are pretty much replicas of each other, and the big teams are faster simply because they have the money to test and refine an essentially similar design to the nth degree. If a good driver is driving for a slower team, superior skill can't really overcome the differences in hardware, not least because the aerodynamics of the cars make it almost impossible to slipstream and overtake another driver under normal racing conditions.
Blind loyalty to the sport isn't going to make it any better. F1 at the moment is crap, and it won't get any better until the fans wise up and walk away. When the sponsors aren't getting the audience figures their paying for, they'll soon insist that the sport becomes entertaining again. Will that happen? I doubt it.
Rich :¬)
*thumbs up* to Rave
Bernie the control freak killed the sport single-handedly, with Shumacher doing his hell best to help, he just wants to drive around really fast and win, and not race. (Before anyone bitches, you can see it in the race strategy, everything possible is done to avoid car on car racing with him, Barichello on the other hand loves to race wheel to wheel still.)
I still wish that some of the bigger manufacturers would get together and put their own series together like they were threatening to earlier on in the year, get the sport out of the hands of the mindless money men like Bernie and back into the passionate people that care about the sport (Binning Silverstone?? It's one of the best loved circuits on the race scene by virtually all the drivers, says it all tbh)
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F1 sucks, but why?
I'll tell you why. F1 doesn't have Suzi Perry.
End of discussion
(edit: it doesn't, does it? Oh I can't remember now, she seems to be everywhere these days.)
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It COULD.. more cash in F1
Mmmmmm SuziF1 sucks, but why?
I'll tell you why. F1 doesn't have Suzi Perry.
End of discussion
(edit: it doesn't, does it? Oh I can't remember now, she seems to be everywhere these days.)
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Ttiuwp... ;-)
F1 has changed, it has become far more about technical know-how, technical development and team skill than solely depending on a super-fit and super-star racing driver [which most of them are]
Watch F1 for what it is...Motorsport at its loudest, fastest and most challenging.
I wouldn't swap it for anything else...in fact i find many other Motorsports just to slow to watch.
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