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    Gmail worries

    The story behind the new "Google Mail" name

    You may have noticed the Google Mail logo. We are changing our service's name in the UK. Starting October 19, 2005, all new accounts will have @googlemail.com addresses. Don't worry, though – all messages are being sent and delivered as before.

    Why the name change then?

    We have been involved in a dispute regarding the Gmail trademark in the UK. Another company has claimed rights to the Gmail name. We have tried to resolve this dispute through negotiations, but our efforts have failed.

    We are still working with the courts and trademark office to protect our ability to use the Gmail name, but in the meantime, we want you to have an email address you can rely on.

    The Gmail Team is dedicated to offering the best email service to our users. Our email service stays the same no matter what the logo is or what follows the @ symbol. This change lets our team focus their time on continuing to bring you excellent service.

    What this means for our users

    Do I need to do anything?
    No. Although the name is changing, your email service remains the same. To sign in, you can go to the same page as before, or you can now also visit: http://mail.google.com/mail.


    When will you start offering Google Mail accounts?

    When will this change take place?
    Starting October 19, 2005, the Gmail service will be renamed Google Mail in the UK. We will no longer issue new @gmail.com addresses. All new addresses will be @googlemail.com addresses.


    What if I invite someone?

    Will they also have to create an @googlemail.com address?
    That depends on where your invitation recipients are located. If they are in a country where we issue Gmail accounts, then they will be able to create a Gmail account. But from the UK, you will only be able to send Google Mail invitations. If your recipient is also in the UK, he or she will only be able to create an @googlemail.com account.


    What if I'm a UK user who already has a Gmail address? Will that address ever change?

    Unfortunately, we don't know. We would love to say that your address will always remain the same. But the trademark issue is still unsettled, and unfortunately, we cannot predict what the other party or the courts might do here. You can always use your same username with an @googlemail.com address to avoid this issue later on. But trust that we will do the best we can to make sure your email address won't ever have to change.


    What if I'm a UK user who already has a Gmail address? Will I also need to change that address?

    No, this change doesn’t affect existing Gmail addresses. For now, our plan is only to issue @googlemail.com addresses to new users. Trust that we will do the best we can to offer all our users a reliable and consistent email experience.

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    why exactly is that marvellous bit of cut and pasting a worry ?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4354954.stm

    Some greedy little financial service company wanted a stupid ammount of money to release a name they believed they had trademarked, so they changed the name.
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    I've been looking through the setting in my gmail account and I can't find anywhere that says I live in the UK.
    Do they detect where their users are from via the IP address that you log in with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moby-Dick
    why exactly is that marvellous bit of cut and pasting a worry ?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4354954.stm

    Some greedy little financial service company wanted a stupid ammount of money to release a name they believed they had trademarked, so they changed the name.
    Because if they are successful, and force google to not use it, they might have to change all current uk @gmail.com addresses to @googlemail.com

    This would cause chaos for some of us who have subscriptions etc (ie more than we can remember), or who would have to change everything to the new address. Inevitably you forget to tell some ppl or whatever and you lose contact.

    Still doesnt affect me atm not livin in the uk for another 10months an all

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    why did google not pay them off i asurred the company would of given the name up?

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    Also to be fair - don't be dependant on things your not paying for - services change..

    I wonder how long it takes for someone to claim they are going to sue Google...

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    If you signup to the new service, people can still send emails to gmail.com and it will be redirected to the googlemail.com address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Famished
    If you signup to the new service, people can still send emails to gmail.com and it will be redirected to the googlemail.com address.
    yeh, if they did change existing users @gmail addys to @googlemail then surely they would forward all the email sent to old address...

    makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iMc
    yeh, if they did change existing users @gmail addys to @googlemail then surely they would forward all the email sent to old address...

    makes sense to me.
    hope so

    Otherwise i would have to chnage every single address for everything. There are at least 20 odd important uni things i am subscribed to with my gmail address for a start

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    i really hope they don't change it!

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    I hope this company are regretting the rejections to previous negotiations, since Google have went 'Alright - we will get googlemail instead ' I know I can't really blame the other company for standing their ground on what is their property, but it can't help but wind me up

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    i really have no problems with it, i have an account, but i dont use it, so no real loss... pop3 is the way to go, buy your own domain and get everything u want @yourdomain.com
    thats what i do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    I wonder how long it takes for someone to claim they are going to sue Google...
    Didn't Microsoft have a go at suing Google? Over a certain person they hired? (Can't remember the name.)
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    How can a company own a .com address in the UK only? I thought they had to be registered internationally.

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    They didn't sue google as far as i remember, they took action against the person in question, and made sure he couldn't go to work for google in the area where he had direct "MS" knowledge.

    A clause in his own contract, which is pretty standard in IT development, you can't go to work for a competitor for X many years etc...

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