Saddam Sentenced to Death...

[neonplanet40]

Then you's have no one to blame but yourselves. The republican army would not have needed to do that had Ireland have been given back to their rightful owners eg. the irish people.(my opinion)

I'm not saying that killing people is the way to go however i see killing a soldier better than killing a civilian but thats just my opinion. At least a soldier can defend himself. So in answer to your question was bloody sunday any worse than brittish soldiers being murdered then i have to say yes it is. At least soldiers have weapons to shoot back. The civilians in bloody sunday did not. They were gunned down like cattle.

However if its an IRA member aginst an army member then i consider them equal. To say that the civilians of bloody sunday that got killed by SOLDIERS was their own fault is down right rubbish. Maybe if they all had some grenades and a rifle then yea. Id agree with that.

[TheAnimus]

Then you's have no one to blame but yourselves. The republican army would not have needed to do that had Ireland have been given back to their rightful owners eg. the irish people.(my opinion)

Because of plate tectonics, and conditental drift, i think that Ulser was once ajoined to my back garden.

As such its mine, i'm going to rape your sister, and blow up your town sentor long live the TALA (The Animus Liberation Army). With our loyal fight against you opressors who are occupying the land i want for a swimming pool, gazebo and nice open bbq. Ireland is mine damnit, all of it.

grow the hell up, justifing killing soft targets with words like that is a demonstation of the lack of power really held, otherwise the hard targets would be attacked.

As someone who grew up having been told to never go near the family car until it had been checked for bombs by dad (thanks IRA) when we're in Germany, and my farther working in R&D that could in no way be used in a conflict against the IRA. Yeh, that was really their liberation. The fact you support them makes me sick, so why shouldn't i be able to kill you for the fear you gave my childhood? the validity of such a desire is as valid as yours for supporting the IRA.

[neonplanet40]

I support the IRA because i beleive in a United Ireland. I have no care for whether you agree with that or not. Since when did the IRA rape people? Your summing up of ireland wanting their land back for a bbq and swimming pool shows just how stupid your reply was.

You think we didnt have any fear during childhood? Getting threw in the back of a police landrover and getting the head kicked off you for being a catholic by your police? Or how about your cousin getting kicked to death in your local town for being a catholic? Or your best friends father driving a taxi one night and then coming home and getting shot in the back of the head by the LVF being a catholic. So dont you even think of talking down to me claiming that your life was so much worse than everyone elses cause that is pure Bull S***.

You support the people that oppressed my life and i support the people that oppressed yours. Its not your right to tell me what i can and cant do. I have care whether it makes you sick or not.

I also said that i did not agree with killing as an answer but at times i could see why it was done. You could kill me if you wanted. I do not see it as the same with the IRA. I am not an IRA member i am however a devout irish. If our shoes where switched then maybe we could gain a better understanding of each others lives but i couldnt see it.

[TheAnimus]

I support the IRA because i beleive in a United Ireland. I have no care for whether you agree with that or not. Since when did the IRA rape people? Your summing up of ireland wanting their land back for a bbq and swimming pool shows just how stupid your reply was.

i also want a gazebo!

You support the people that oppressed my life and i support the people that oppressed yours. Its not your right to tell me what i can and cant do. I have care whether it makes you sick or not.

this is why your a prat.

I didn't support it, in any way, shape or form. You, buy your presence of been a catholic where in some way not compling.

Me, i was miles away, outside the UK even.

How could you support anyone who openly supported the blowing up of 5 year old soft targets like me?

I also said that i did not agree with killing as an answer but at times i could see why it was done. You could kill me if you wanted. I do not see it as the same with the IRA. I am not an IRA member i am however a devout irish. If our shoes where switched then maybe we could gain a better understanding of each others lives but i couldnt see it.

No, because as much as i've been a harbinger of death in my time(!) i have yet to even consider blowing up a soft target, to me thats immoral. Anyone who supports the IRA is by implication morally bankrupt themself.

You can support the cause, without supporting the pervaours of needless violence.

[neonplanet40]

Then im morally bankrupt

[TheAnimus]

Then im morally bankrupt

and as such a supporter of the combatants, and therefore a valid target yourself?

Do you see where the circle goes?

Then think, think for just a second, who has the nukes, the army, and the ability to properly **** you over? Guess what, its the UK!

Ergo, your screwed.

Enless your side will commit more reprenhensible deeds than the english, therefore alienating your side from its cause. See where this one is going?

The IRA is more from my understanding, a criminal organisation for noking off post offices and drug dealing. That is why i'd be in the IRA, everything else is pointless.

[neonplanet40]

Shows how little you know about the IRA, and there is more than one. There used to be 4 sects. Only one is active now and them i dont support.

Thats like saying china and russia and america has the nukes and the army and could easily take you off the face of the earth if you didnt do what they wanted. I think nukes should be wiped of the earth.

And tbh england has always had an army and nukes but has never been capable of properly f**k us over. hense the partition of ireland. And do you really think the uk would waste one of its few nukes to hit ireland? Radiation clouds ring a bell as well as world wide condemnation and UN sanctions as well as intervention from other countrys. The only country UK is close to if you could call it that is america. Russia would not allow for a nuke to be fired at a country. No matter who that country is as an act or warfare. Just like in iraq and afghanistan. You cant use a nuke against a guerilla army.

So you say you support nukes and nuking me and my country or sending a full army in to wipe us out yet im morally bankrupt cause i agree with a soldier being killed in a war? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOook then i can see how that works.

You have a VERY biased view which is fine (as i also have) but try sometimes to see both sides of the story or even try to look more deeply into it which i have even though i may not say i do. Various parts of the IRA i support others i dont. But im not in charge and couldnt take them things out if i wanted. At the end of the day we needed them to protect us back in the 70's and that they done.

There is different sects to the ira and all do different things. I dont support drug dealing and knocking off post offices. I support the unification of ireland.

Just like you may support the brittish army in Iraq yet they humiliate and beat prisoners of war. But that doesnt mean they all do that

I will no longer take part in this argument as its going no where and i dont agree with you at all and you dont agree with me at so lets leave it at that. You didnt live in Northern Ireland and as such i say you know nothing. All you know is what the press and media tell you. I have seen things first hand and as always there is more to the story than the media show. I suppose you see what the LVF and the UVF done in history was ok? Lets remember that it was the UVF who brought the gun into politics at the start of the 1900's not the IRA.

I would also say that on most occasions people killed by the ira where killed for a reason. I doubt they would put a bomb under your car because you are a 5 year old living in germany. And they just seen you as an easy target. Do not mix them up with suicide bombers. They blew places up for a purpose. The omagh bomb was a complete misscalculation (i can only speculate this). And it was a tragedy and a very low day for the IRA. I never supported that at all. I seen that as a catastrophie and it was utterly terrible. It was crossing the line and that day the public viewed the IRA in a different light.

But like i said. Im done

[Bazzlad]

I know you've finished, but I want my final "speech" - just like you had.

"I think nukes should be wiped of the earth."
I think terrorist should be wiped off the Earth.

"And tbh england has always had an army and nukes but has never been capable of properly f**k us over. hense the partition of ireland."

Well you're wrong there. We could easily invade, force marshal law, add curfews, and kill as many Irish men as we wanted. We didn't and wouldn't, it's not decent, but if there was a war to the end between the two nations be under no illusions the outcome.

There was a "war" in your mind perhaps, but not in Britain. We never sent troops over to kill, never sent bombs over (that was your speciality) and sent no tanks. Funny that.

"Russia would not allow for a nuke to be fired at a country. No matter who that country is as an act or warfare."

WTF? Like Russia is a big player in the world. They can't even feed their own people.

"There is different sects to the ira and all do different things. I dont support drug dealing and knocking off post offices. I support the unification of ireland."

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DO YOU? YOU'RE COMPANING FOR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT! IT'S BACKWARDS. THE VOTE WAS TAKEN - THE PERCENTAGES ARE STILL HIGHER - if you want to live in Ireland move house. Northern Ireland is British in everyone's eyes but backwards IRA supporting Catholics.

Absolutely retarted.

"I will no longer take part in this argument as its going no where and i dont agree with you at all and you dont agree with me at so lets leave it at that. You didnt live in Northern Ireland and as such i say you know nothing. All you know is what the press and media tell you. I have seen things first hand and as always there is more to the story than the media show. I suppose you see what the LVF and the UVF done in history was ok? Lets remember that it was the UVF who brought the gun into politics at the start of the 1900's not the IRA."

A gun against "valid" targets in a "war". Not multiple bombing campaigns against civilians. Remember THAT.

"They blew places up for a purpose. The omagh bomb was a complete misscalculation (i can only speculate this). And it was a tragedy and a very low day for the IRA"

Yeah they blew up a pub in Birmingham. That surely was a valid target.
Grow up.

[TheAnimus]

And tbh england has always had an army and nukes but has never been capable of properly f**k us over. hense the partition of ireland. And do you really think the uk would waste one of its few nukes to hit ireland? Radiation clouds ring a bell as well as world wide condemnation and UN sanctions as well as intervention from other countrys. The only country UK is close to if you could call it that is america. Russia would not allow for a nuke to be fired at a country. No matter who that country is as an act or warfare. Just like in iraq and afghanistan. You cant use a nuke against a guerilla army.

I would be very suprised if i couldn't break into your computer.

Granted i might need physical access, but enless you've got some fritz chips, i doubt it would be any deterent to me.

Why don't i do it? Is it because its not worth my time? Or because i have a certain level of moral deceny?

You don't seem to understand violence and escilation properly, and as such i'm assuming you've never been close to it, but it appears from your ideas of whats ok you've actually wanted to be tho, that is deeply worrying.

I would seriously have a look at what you've written, how you can possibly sanction murder when its not even close to a last resort.

Simply put, England is bigger than that country, we have an army, we have a better economy. What is stopping us killing every last one ala die Reinigung?

Nothing that you could do, not one god damn thing.

Get it? Its that simple?

As such hate begats hate, and yes people want to belong to something a greater cause, and if you carry down that path you'll either be dead, or have some very heavy deeds on your conciense assuming you do finally understand.