iPhone No More...

[Gorgeous]

...Or untill Jobs writes a nice big fat cheque for Cisco.

Cisco sues Apple....shock horror, can you believe it?

I can now forsee (sp?) Cisco deliberately using delaying tactics in court to push back the iPhones release date.

[directhex]

cisco have had the iphone trademark for 7 years, and have been releasing SIP phones without that brand name for a good number of them

and they finally decide to use the trademark a fortnight before macworld on an unremarkable new model?

they're being trolls, plain & simple

[MadduckUK]

cisco have had the iphone trademark for 7 years

and that wasn't enough to put apple off?

[SilentDeath]

cisco have had the iphone trademark for 7 years, and have been releasing SIP phones without that brand name for a good number of them

and they finally decide to use the trademark a fortnight before macworld on an unremarkable new model?

they're being trolls, plain & simple

Whos being trolls? cisco OWN the trademark. They dont have to use it. Its not like they registered for it just as the phone was announced.

Apple just want media attention. They might be getting sued but its good publicity for them, even if they lose.

It seems cisco have no immediate plans for a new item using the trademark, but it is there trademark. They have been in negotiations with apple, where apple probably did not want to pay for its use, or just thought they would risk it anyway.

[directhex]

Whos being trolls? cisco OWN the trademark. They dont have to use it. Its not like they registered for it just as the phone was announced.

Apple just want media attention. They might be getting sued but its good publicity for them, even if they lose.

It seems cisco have no immediate plans for a new item using the trademark, but it is there trademark. They have been in negotiations with apple, where apple probably did not want to pay for its use, or just thought they would risk it anyway.

if it was something that cisco had ever shown signs of using, then i'd simply say "silly apple". but it's not. the only "iphone" cisco has ever released was shortly before christmas, adding to their LONG established range of SIP phones in a carefully calculated move. in their press releases, cisco have said they've been in discussion with apple for a while. if someone's got a big pile of cash on the table, why would you muddy the waters by actually making use of an unused trademark, unless:

a) you want to get sales from people who think they're getting an apple iphone
b) you want to raise the price by saying "look, it's such an extremely valuable trademark to us, we use it on real hardware"!
c) all of the above

do you think typosquatters, or people who buy domains like quake5.com, are well within their rights? they may well be - but it doesn't stop them from being assholes

[badass]

do you think typosquatters, or people who buy domains like quake5.com, are well within their rights? they may well be - but it doesn't stop them from being assholes

LOL true but both Cisco and Apple are full of the above.
Apple are fools for not sorting this before releasing the iPhone and Cisco are fools for not having seen this coming as soon as the iPod was a success. They should have been selling iPhones since then.

[directhex]

They should have been selling iPhones since then.

no, because then apple would have avoided the in-use name (see iTV -> appleTV)

by squatting the trademark until *just* before it saw use, cisco have guaranteed that apple are stuck - they can't change the name without losing out on a lot of the generated buzz, so they may as well write a blank cheque

[badass]

no, because then apple would have avoided the in-use name (see iTV -> appleTV)

by squatting the trademark until *just* before it saw use, cisco have guaranteed that apple are stuck - they can't change the name without losing out on a lot of the generated buzz, so they may as well write a blank cheque

Good move by Cisco then. They are a business and so are only there to make money. Its not like what they are doing is ripping people off. Its a tactical move by one large company that sell overpriced goods to companies all over the world to get as much money as possible out of another company that sells overpriced goods to those with more money than sense and are complete sheep.
That said, I still love Cisco kit.

[jonathan steel]

there is quite alot of hype about this phone, however it comes with a hefty price tag! around 700 USD i think

[Dareos]

methinks Apple just want to own the letter i

[chicken]

u r teh Apple of my i

[G4Z]

As far as I am aware to retain a trademark you must actively protect and use it, I think it could be argued that for the last 7 years Cisco has not done this. I think Apple may well win this case.

[MadduckUK]

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/i...ated-at-birth/

[JPreston]

Apple also have copyright over the pronoun 'I', so technically we have to refer ourselves in the third person, like The Rock does.


What is the significance of the 'i' in ipod anyway, what does it stand for? Why should anyone give a monkeys anyway?

[midzt]

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/11/i...ated-at-birth/

That what I was wondering before in the other thread. All phones will pretty much look the same if they have a full touchscreen interface.

[xfactor]

lol - issue easily sorted with ifone

errrr .. should I register this one?