Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 17 to 32 of 40

Thread: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

  1. #17
    Chillie in here j.o.s.h.1408's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    a place called home
    Posts
    8,545
    Thanks
    749
    Thanked
    253 times in 190 posts
    • j.o.s.h.1408's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P6T Delux
      • CPU:
      • Intel core i7 920 @ 3ghz
      • Memory:
      • 3GB DDR RAM
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung F1, 500GB Seagate baracuda + 320gb Seagate PATA +150GB WD PATA
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 480GTX SC edition
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic M12 600W Module PSU FTW
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-A7010B (the rolls royce of pc cases)
      • Operating System:
      • vista ultimate edition and windows xp
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22inch 2005FPW dell monitor
      • Internet:
      • 24mb BE There Broadband

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Quote Originally Posted by McPhee View Post

    The question is do you really need a card that powerful?
    LOL thats a stupid question. if ur a hardcore gamer that plays the lates games you need the power to do and at the moment there is not a single card that plays crysis at abover 50fps on its highest settings at 1680x res

  2. #18
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,498
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    786 times in 733 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    How much does anyon actually care about playing crysis on highest settings.. should do a poll.

    It looks fine with medium settings.

  3. #19
    Chillie in here j.o.s.h.1408's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    a place called home
    Posts
    8,545
    Thanks
    749
    Thanked
    253 times in 190 posts
    • j.o.s.h.1408's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P6T Delux
      • CPU:
      • Intel core i7 920 @ 3ghz
      • Memory:
      • 3GB DDR RAM
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Samsung F1, 500GB Seagate baracuda + 320gb Seagate PATA +150GB WD PATA
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 480GTX SC edition
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic M12 600W Module PSU FTW
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-A7010B (the rolls royce of pc cases)
      • Operating System:
      • vista ultimate edition and windows xp
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22inch 2005FPW dell monitor
      • Internet:
      • 24mb BE There Broadband

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    looks average at medium. i want it to LOOK like th E3 vids we saw years ago. i care. maybe teh cards out now play yesterdays games fine but what about tomorrows games like alan wake, far cry2, battlefied 3?

  4. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    152
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    5 times in 4 posts
    • fraps's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS M2N-4 SLI
      • CPU:
      • AMD X2 6000+
      • Memory:
      • PC2-7200 OCZ XTC DDR2 4GB RAM
      • Storage:
      • Samsung HD160JJ
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX HD4870 XXX 1gb
      • PSU:
      • Antec SmartPower 450 Watt
      • Case:
      • NZXT Apollo case
      • Operating System:
      • XP pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Mitsubishi Diamondtron 22” CRT
      • Internet:
      • Virgin ADSL Broadband up to 8mb

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Is there a 8800gs 768mb available?

  5. #21
    Yeah dude! NightshadowUK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Bolton
    Posts
    2,172
    Thanks
    134
    Thanked
    59 times in 57 posts
    • NightshadowUK's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Z87M GAMING
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i7 4790K [Macho Rev.B]
      • Memory:
      • 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LP
      • Storage:
      • Crucial M500 [240GB] & MX500 [1TB]
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 4GB Sapphire 290X Vapor-X
      • PSU:
      • 620W Corsair HX
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ08B-E [AP181 & NF-S12B]
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Home [64bit]
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2412M
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 200Mb

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    looks average at medium. i want it to LOOK like th E3 vids we saw years ago. i care. maybe teh cards out now play yesterdays games fine but what about tomorrows games like alan wake, far cry2, battlefied 3?
    Today's cards can't play tomorrow's games on max settings. This will forever be the case, and the reason why we continue to spend money upgrading our gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by fraps View Post
    Is there a 8800gs 768mb available?
    Nope, but all that memory on a mid-range card would be pointless anyways. Having said that, the 8800GS in general seems pretty pointless to me...

  6. #22
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,498
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    786 times in 733 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    looks average at medium. i want it to LOOK like th E3 vids we saw years ago. i care. maybe teh cards out now play yesterdays games fine but what about tomorrows games like alan wake, far cry2, battlefied 3?
    so they had some kind of super cards to play it back then...

    I can't get into the frame of mind where the detail really counts.. surely the gameplay is good enough

  7. #23
    Folding Flunkie Webby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Wiltshire
    Posts
    2,323
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked
    245 times in 229 posts
    • Webby's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte G33M-DS2R, Swiftech MCW30 Northbridge Cooler
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 3.5GHz, Cooling D-Tek Fuzion V2
      • Memory:
      • 2GB OCZ Flex DDR2 PC2-9200 5-5-5-15 @ 1000MHz 4-4-4-12
      • Storage:
      • 2x 250GB WD SataII
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD4870 512MB, Cooling Swiftech MCW60
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX520w
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Tremjin TJ06 - Modded for Water Cooling Goodness
      • Operating System:
      • Windows XP Pro SP3
      • Monitor(s):
      • 22" Widescreen Cibox C2201 (with DVI input)
      • Internet:
      • 8Mb/s ADSL

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    How much does anyon actually care about playing crysis on highest settings.. should do a poll.

    It looks fine with medium settings.
    Don't have Crysis so really couldn't give a monkeys.

    On the other hand I can understand that people want to be able to play at the highest settings but as you say Mike it should be more abut gameplay than graphics, buy a game and rave about it because its good to play not because it looks pretty! Now if it didn't play well because the graphics were poor that would be a different matter.

  8. #24
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,498
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    786 times in 733 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    I dont have crysis either.. my mate does. He tried it on high settings obviously with not much luck but the frames didn't look that dissimilar to the medium setting ones..

    Maybe im just not fussy enough.

  9. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    6,587
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    246 times in 208 posts

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    When I buy a game, I kind of what to play it with all the details on, because I think that is how the artist intended to look (this may, of course, not be true - but I reckon it's more likely that they intended to look even better but decided to cut back even at max settings to avoid the complaints we now see in Crysis). Of course, all the eye candy won't compensate for rubbish gameplay, but it's not like you have to pick one or the other.

    That is why I would buy today's GFX card to play yesterday's game (I've yet to play FEAR and it's likely the first game I'll play on the next PC I build with a current gen GFX card). By the time I play the game, I'll be able to play it on max setting. I won't think it looks like crap, because I've never played Crysis, so my current eye candy reference point is more like Q4/HL2. And I'd imagine that the game should be well patched now.

    As for the GS being pointless, I am not so sure. It trades hit with the 256MB GT: It's a little slower in games the GT is not bottlenecked, but is also less likely to hit the memory bottleneck (there are one or two games the 256MB is stretched even at mid-range resolutions), especially with some AA/AF on. Overall, I think the GS edges the 256MB GT in usefulness, and I think those cards are currently nVidia's best reply against the 3850 (although still a little more expensive).
    Last edited by TooNice; 01-02-2008 at 12:00 AM.

  10. #26
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,498
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    786 times in 733 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    I think COD4 looks amazing even on limited hardware. If you havn't played that yet give it a go. My System runs it on full @ 1680 x 1050

  11. #27
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    6,587
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    246 times in 208 posts

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Definitely will once my new system is built. Your little tip on the IP-35 Pro has helped me along (I was quite sure that was the last thing I would be able to find a decent deal on)

    On the downside, I ran into a little setback CPU wise. I was set on buying a 2nd hand Q6600 but that the plan had to be scrapped due to an accident. I'll have to study the E8400 a little more now (I am weary of the early 4.5Ghz craze).

    Back to the graphics card, are there are GTS that come with 'silent' cooling out of the box? It's well accepted that the stock cooler of a reference GTS is better than the stock cooler of a reference GT. But there are at least two passive GT.

  12. #28
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,498
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    786 times in 733 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Cant say i've seen one.

    My mate has just bought the aftermarket zalman cooler for the GTS which is very quiet (as near to silent as you will probably notice) and isn't huuuuge like the thermalright HR-03GT

    Cost a fair bit though. Something like £50 including the memory heatsinks.

    Zalman VF1000-LED VGA Cooler
    Zalman ZM-RHS88 GeForce 8800 Series VGA RAM Heatsink

  13. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    6,587
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    246 times in 208 posts

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Woah, that's a lot to put on a GFX card. Isn't the Arctic S1 a good bit smaller than the HR-03? I used to be sceptical about it (probably for no other reason than being comparatively inexpensive), but I can't ignore the praise it received from SPCR.

  14. #30
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,498
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    786 times in 733 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Yeah looks a bit smaller. Havn't read much about that one yet.

  15. #31
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    519
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    16 times in 14 posts
    • McPhee's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8H67 Pro
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 2400
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Crucial DDR3-1033
      • Storage:
      • 128GB Kingston SSDNow V2+
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus GTX460
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet 550W
      • Case:
      • Antec 900
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • 19" Samsung 941BW
      • Internet:
      • 1Mbps

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    LOL thats a stupid question. if ur a hardcore gamer that plays the lates games you need the power to do and at the moment there is not a single card that plays crysis at abover 50fps on its highest settings at 1680x res
    Wow! You're one hardcore gamer, man! I mean, you even use "teh" instead of "the"

    I guess i may as well retire from gaming, skill is no longer enough...
    Last edited by McPhee; 01-02-2008 at 02:37 AM.

  16. #32
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    1,041
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    8 times in 8 posts
    • oralpain's system
      • Motherboard:
      • DFI "Blood Iron" P35-T2RL
      • CPU:
      • Intel Pentium E2140 @ 400x8 (3.2GHz), 1.375v
      • Memory:
      • Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 CL4 @ 500MHz (DDR 1000), 4-4-4-12-T2, 2.3v
      • Storage:
      • 2x Seagate ST3250410AS
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA 8800GTS (G92) 512 @ 783MHz core, 1836MHz shader, 1053Mhz memory, stock cooling 70% fan speed
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic SS-500GB
      • Case:
      • Antec P182, with some small modifications
      • Monitor(s):
      • ASUS VW222U
      • Internet:
      • Time Warner "Road Runner" Cable - 16 megabit downstream, 1 megabit upstream

    Re: 8800GT and GS are pointless when

    No such thing as enough graphics power, but there is such a thing as too much cost.

    I play a few games that run much slower than I would like, even on one of the fastest single GPU cards (8800GTS 512 with a 15% OC, making it a bit faster than a GTX at the resolution I use).

    Even in somewhat older games such as Oblivion, I do not get the frames I find ideal at the graphics settings I would like. Even SLI 8800Ultra's would not do this.

    In general, I find that it takes about 4 years from the time a game is released to the time I am able to run them "perfectly" (by my definition this is with everything maxed out at the native res of whatever monitor I am using with at least 4x AA and 16x AF, and never, ever, see below 60FPS) with high-end hardware.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •