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    Graphics Card Dilemma

    Right I'm gonna buy myself a new graphics card I think. It's the only thing left in my PC to be updated

    I've narrowed it down pretty much to either the:

    Asus Radeon 9600XT 128MB
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    Ridiculously cheap Sapphire 9800Pro 128MB Lite Retail

    Now my questioning is as follows...

    I've been hearing a bit recently about the build quality and reliability of Sapphire cards. My mate has bought two Sapphires (A 9600Pro and a 9600XT), both of which the fan has become knackered and started making a whining noise. This also started happening when he put a Crystal Orb to replace the first one. Maybe it's just bad luck, but it's made me VERY hesitant to buy a Sapphire, a company which I used to think made excellent graphics cards.

    So do I buy the cheaper, yet a lot more powerful* Sapphire card and hope that luck is on my side and the fan doesn't die after 3 months. OR do I buy a card that isn't quite as powerful, slightly more expensive, but made by a manufacturer which I think very highly of, and hear no complaints about?

    That's the dilemma kids, help me out here!!


    * - That's another thing... Why is this particular Sapphire so cheap? Is it a glorified OEM version of the 9800Pro? "Lite-Retail" doesn't impair the power of this card does it?


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    get the 9800pro, saphire cards are fantastic, and _IF_ the fan dies, perfect excuse to get a VGA cooler
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    I'm with Russ......(as normal,its becoming a bit of a trend...he must be getting as clever as me )

    9800 Pro....LE means no rubbish bundled....and I am sure that Sapphire made everybody's ATI cards once....Im sure they used tomake ATI's card for them.

    Just a thought.....but Im fairly sure they were an official factory....so quality should be ok...

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    But my mate is firmly against me getting it cos of the fans.. Two of his started whining horrendously..

    Otherwise I agree Sapphire are good, but it's the fans

    If the fan does die, how long will the card be able to run without the fan working, before the card frys? :
    Last edited by Howard; 21-02-2004 at 12:14 PM.
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    but the extra power is worth the risk, and like i said, you can pick up a VGA Cooler for like 15 squid. and the it'll clock to the high hevens no problem
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    To hell with it. 9800 Pro it is. I'll order it sometime in the next week or two. Thing is I will need to write my parents a cheque or something cos of DAMN KOMPLETT not accepting Solo
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    or draw the money out and pay it them in cash
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    That's an awful lot more effort
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    Reckon it's worth my upgrading to this 9800 from my Gainward GS GF4 Ti4400?

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    Absolutely. DirectX 9 and a whole lot more power
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    Not sure whether to wait a generation......Kinda want 256Mb of DDR2

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    If you keep waiting you'll never get anywhere. That's my analagy
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    True, but I just want a card that will run HL2 with AA enabled and everything on at 1600x1200 with a good number of fps

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    I think its probably best to wait - as my ti4200 (303/621) runs everything fine. May as well wait until either the new GPU's come out, or until proper DX9 games start coming out HL2/D3 stuff....

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    Yeah - I'd hang around, as the GF4Tis still run everything around well. Just you don't have DX9 ... I think I'll wait for the DX9.1 cards to turn up ... and drop in price

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    and dont forget upgrading now is pretty useless as the PCIX is coming!!
    DAMN... why did i have to upgrade?

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