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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    The newer IPS and VA type panels in the last two years are definitely fast enough for gaming and media use and only a few like the first version of the 2408WFP had issues.

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    I never had issues with S-IPS panels, not even an A01 3007WFP with its 11ms grey-grey time, it simply isn't an issue.

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    My 3 year old Phillips 200W6CS has a P-MVA panel and it is perfectly fine IMHO.

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The newer IPS and VA type panels in the last two years are definitely fast enough for gaming and media use and only a few like the first version of the 2408WFP had issues.
    I think that as far as input lag goes the Dell eIPS 2209WA actually has one of the lowest input lags available, so its pretty good for gaming and really response time hasn't been much of an issue for more recent screens anyway. So its kinda ironic the 2209WA is one of the best choices for colour and gaming and is still reasonably priced. Talk about having your cake and eating it .

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    Well it's one of the best choices, but higher-spec monitors aren't any worse. I don't really see what your point is

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    This thread has made my mind up on buying a 2209wa, nice one guys.

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    Quote Originally Posted by sammorris View Post
    Well it's one of the best choices, but higher-spec monitors aren't any worse. I don't really see what your point is
    I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'd guess he's saying that historically, you either had to choose between decent colour and higher lag, or pay a lot more .....or perhaps, just had a pay more for decent colour fidelity. I must say I'm inclined to agree .... for the price, that Dell seems to be a very competitive balance of spec and price for anyone who has colour fidelity fairly well up their requirements list.

    I'm no monitor expert, but for, for instance, a photographic enthusiast who wants a half-decent gaming capability on a budget of £200 or so, that Dell eIPS monitor seems to me to take a lot of beating. I assume that was his point.

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    The Dell eIPS 2209WA is great, but it still lacks HDMI, and it runs with 6 ms response speed, so do consider that before jumping into that!

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    Quote Originally Posted by muppet_hat View Post
    The Dell eIPS 2209WA is great, but it still lacks HDMI, and it runs with 6 ms response speed, so do consider that before jumping into that!

    http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...p&sku=320-7825
    It may lack HDMI, but it does not lack HDCP, hence an adapter will be fine. And 6 ms is better than most moniters on the market, the average is 8 ms.
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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    6ms is fine. Even 11ms on my old 3007 was perfect for gaming, I never noticed any ghosting. 12+ is where it starts getting dodgy.

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    My monitor has a 8ms response time and it is perfectly fine for playing games.

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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

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    My monitor has a 8ms response time and it is perfectly fine for playing games.
    I didn't 8 ms is bad, I just said 6 ms is faster than average, and the average is 8 ms.
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    Yes, but there's no point in using that as a reason to choose X product over Y product as you'll never notice the difference, that's the point we're trying to get across.

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    Yes, but there's no point in using that as a reason to choose X product over Y product as you'll never notice the difference, that's the point we're trying to get across.
    I know. I was just debunking muppet-hats points, about lack of HDMI and 6 ms response time being things "to consider"... neither are important.
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    Re: New Monitor - 20-22" In Size - £100-£150 to Spend

    True - native HDMI is handy though, saves a lot of space with a huge cable and dongle. Not especially high on the list of priorities though.

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    Sammorris is right, that's what I meant, having HDMI + DVI is just really handy, you can have multiple pluggins at once! Also response time might seem the same, but as games keep advancing it will require higher response time, it also depends what types of games you play. FPS games require fast response time, otherwise you will see ghosting.
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