Anyone Know When The Next Gen Nvidia Cards Are Being Released

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

GTX680 is up for sail on Newegg for around $500 to $535:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tx+680&x=0&y=0

This is lower than an HD7970.

[morda8]

hope this lower 7970 prices to £350 atleast

[watercooled]

AMD will have fully expected to lower prices with this release. By how much will depend on 680 price/performance/

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

In fact I am hoping the HD7870 will drop a bit more in price. If the HD7970 drops in price it will also push down the HD7950 too.

[watercooled]

What are you running now? I seem to remember it being either a 560 or a 5850 (but I could be thinking of someone else).

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

What are you running now? I seem to remember it being either a 560 or a 5850 (but I could be thinking of someone else).

A reference HD5850 1GB. I was considering the EVGA GTX460 SuperClocked EE too,as I needed a blower cooler. However,I got the HD5850 secondhand for well under £100 with a copy of DiRT2.0 which was a good deal.

It is not a bad overclocker though(there are better cards AFAIK). I can bench the card at 1GHZ for Unigine 3.0,although 3DMark11 is stable at around 950MHZ and so is Metro2033. Crysis2 is only stable at around 925MHZ(it will run at 950MHZ but will crash after 30 minutes to an hour). Considering,the stock HD5850 1GB clockspeed is 725MHZ,I suspect I am getting at least HD6870 1GB level performance.

TBH,all the games I am interesting in ATM seems to be UE3 based apart from Metro:Last Light so I really have no need to upgrade yet.

I am quite interested in the HD7870 or the Nvidia Kepler equivalent due to their power effiency,but IMHO at well over £200 for both cards(I assume the Nvidia equivalent will be over £200 too) they are a tad rich for my liking.

[kalniel]

So,how do you know this until it is investigated?? Why are you so against me suggesting websites investigate it in detail then??

Er, I'm not against it I think investigations and technical explanations are great added value for reviews. But they're not the main purpose.

Essentially,it is the case though as your previous post indicates.

My post says that we should look at reviews to assess performance. How do you get from that to we shouldn't look at reviews to assess performance?

[Terbinator]

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3298

[kalniel]

Some pcper results as well:
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showp...&postcount=298

and in surrounding posts.

This is the new way to leak your review without breaking NDA

Looks like quite a mixed bag. GTX680 is faster on several titles, not on others.

Need news on the cut down card though (670 or whatever). Else my 7870 order stays

edit: first review and winge about nVidia's channel relations: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/462...iew/index.html

Our relationship with NVIDIA is so broken that it doesn't matter what we do, they have no interest in dealing with us on a professional level. Due to the region NVIDIA North America won't deal with us and NVIDIA Taiwan just don't like us and / or don't want to work with us at all.
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As always, though, NVIDIA, you know how to contact us. We're happy to talk, we made that obvious by the large amounts of emails we sent out. But the ball is now firmly in your court. Maybe we'll get lucky and we won't have to deal with the local office that shows a complete lack of respect for us or maybe we'll just be releasing NVIDIA card reviews early for the next six months. Who knows! That's enough of that though, you, our lovely readers, just want to find out about performance and we're about to give it to you, ahead of the NVIDIA NDA!

[Phage]

GTX680 is up for sail on Newegg

Greenrd's law not withstanding, I'd just like to say "Land Ho !"

<gets coat>

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

So are any of these reviews actual,custom benchmark runs,or built-in game benchmarks??

The Tweaktown results are mostly the built-in benchmarks. What is the point??

[kalniel]

The Tweaktown results are mostly the built-in benchmarks. What is the point??

Haven't Hexus and other sites been running mostly built-in benchmarks for years?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Haven't Hexus and other sites been running mostly built-in benchmarks for years?

I thought Hexus used their own demo runs?? I remember the review guy at Hardware Canucks saying it was pretty pointless as both AMD and Nvidia had optimised their driver sets in some games to give better results in the built-in benchmarks. Haven't they been caught doing this before??

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Guru3d,leaked their results,but it seems some charts were mixed up and they pulled them! Fail!

[kalniel]

I thought Hexus used their own demo runs?? I remember the review guy at Hardware Canucks saying it was pretty pointless as both AMD and Nvidia had optimised their driver sets in some games to give better results in the built-in benchmarks. Haven't they been caught doing this before??

Hexus does use built in benchmarks where available afaik:

3dMark11 - built in (obv )

Aliens vs Predator - built in "The standalone Aliens vs. Predator benchmark uses DX11 features such as hardware tessellation and advanced shadow sampling to draw and animate everyone's favourite xenomorph." - http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...70-pcs/?page=5

Batman - has a benchmark mode

BF3 - doesn't have a benchmark mode so not using built in?

Crysis 2 - has a benchmark mode

Just cause 2 - has a benchmark mode

Total War Shogun 2 - has a benchmark mode

I can't find anything with a quick search, but given they do state using the benchmark mode for AvP I would expect them to do the same with the others. When they've tested other games, like Mafia 2, they also use the in built benchmark.

Benchmark modes might be optimised for, but at the same time, they help tests be more consistent.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AFAIK,HC,HardOCP and The Techreport don't(for example). I always thought Hexus had their own custom test runs!

What I also am interested in is whether the Nvidia Variable Clockthing Thingy(I shall refer to this as VCT from now onwards) will give more consistent minimums and less latency spikes. Now,that would be a good thing. Still,no investigation of the boost mechanism,in either of those slides though.

Edit!!

If you add a "-bar" to the Pcper results you get bar charts.