Doom III Benchmarks.

[Lee H]

Yip

changed my order to a GT card (hence the custom title change as well)

Bloody bargain card if you ask me, wonder if all the X800 XT owners will be crying once Doom3 hits the shelves

[directhex]

Yup.
Getting the ATi drivers installed and working properly is a game in its own right. Then you have the fun with getting 3D apps to work well.

Nv's drivers on the otherhand can be installed <5 mins on nearly all linux systems.

nvidia-installer is GPL software. ati could use it for their drivers if they wanted to

the bigger issue really is a ti4200 benching 25% faster than a 9800xt in ut2004 max detail antalus flyby, and other benches yielding similar results

[Stoo]

Yip

changed my order to a GT card (hence the custom title change as well)

Bloody bargain card if you ask me, wonder if all the X800 XT owners will be crying once Doom3 hits the shelves

Nope, because they still have a really powerful card that wipes the floor with the 6800 in other games

Besides, game and driver patches will level the field eventually anyway..

Then the next next-gen cards will come out and everyone will be crying into their cornflakes

[Agent]

nvidia-installer is GPL software. ati could use it for their drivers if they wanted to

yes, they could, but they dont

Dont get me started on performance. Its why i own a 5950u.

Saying that, ive not had the time to get linux up and running again since my system rebuild . Too busy

[Lee H]

indeed its bloody crazy that the graphics cards progress is now making the CPU progress look woefully slow.

This ATi vs Nvidia is only going to be beneficial for 1 group of people in the end - the end user ( i.e me and you ) We're going to get more advanced features and cards that will perform beautifully fast and provide users with graphics that we thought would never exist over 4 years ago.

I mean how long ago did the first geforce card appear ? Theres a huge difference between the old geforce 256 and the 6800 series, in fact it makes the progress in processors look pathetic really

[daniel_owen_uk]

Right then lads, we've all seen the Doom III benchmarks now, so its time for some adult discussion of them.

Nah where?

Anyone got a link?

[Stoo]

I dunno, in the same period of time we've got from something like a k6-2 400 crunching seti units in about 30 hours to 3GHz processors doing the same job in a couple of hours (and the complexity of the crunch went up a couple of times..)

[Tom]

http://www2.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjQy <== there is the link

I wish he would've ran it on the 6800 too as THAT looks to be a bargain @ £180.

[steve threlfall]

Nah where?

Anyone got a link?

They are at hard ocp mate, link was on the front page

[DR]

Just to kill all the ATi fans - HL2 will show the *xact same thing.

These were run with the NEW ATi OpenGL driver - 20% faster than current ones.... So NV win.

[Apex]

Was allready looking at swaping cards but this just takes the bisket....and now am running linux the probs with ATI just don't make it worth it.

Yet more choices on wat to upgrade to.....

[Apex]

Wat amazes me is that ATI have dropped the ball i thought they had learned their lessons from past mistakes but it seems they haven't.

[Agent]

Wat amazes me is that ATI have dropped the ball i thought they had learned their lessons from past mistakes but it seems they haven't.

Nv are a very big company and had dominated for a long time. Now ATi has a fairly good foothold in the market place, you can be sure they wont let it go easily.

But at the day, does it matter ?
This is good for us, its competition at its best. One trying to out-do the other in a constant battle. For us being consumers it means they are investing more, with better cards being made as a result of the R&D. And as a added bonus, it push's price's down.

I really dont care who wins each round of the graphics card battle. All i can be sure of, is that its good news for us

[Apex]

Prices arn't going down are they though, they seem to keep going up with each version.

[DR]

Wat amazes me is that ATI have dropped the ball i thought they had learned their lessons from past mistakes but it seems they haven't.

They have not dropped the ball, this is an OpenGL hard core peformance thing

[DR]

Nv are a very big company and had dominated for a long time. Now ATi has a fairly good foothold in the market place, you can be sure they wont let it go easily.

But at the day, does it matter ?
This is good for us, its competition at its best. One trying to out-do the other in a constant battle. For us being consumers it means they are investing more, with better cards being made as a result of the R&D. And as a added bonus, it push's price's down.

I really dont care who wins each round of the graphics card battle. All i can be sure of, is that its good news for us

As you know I work close with both companies - and I speak to people high up.

I spoke to Jen-Hsun (CEO NV) in detail, he knows about you guys and your thoughts. Anyway, he lost 300 Million$ by over Engineering the 3X setup, it was TOO advanced. Anyway he wanted to get back, at all costs. They have done this.

NVIDIA have always had the better OpenGL support, and this is another situation in hand.

All that can be said is that the battle will go forth, but without doubt - My soon to be built dual NV45 will kick *anything* on the market to the dust. From *anyone*