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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    These tools are a trap. Keep on using them and rushing to get a card as soon as possible and you're dooming yourself, and others, to a cycle of paying over the odds and rewarding scalpers. The causal chain really isn't hard to discern. Just be patient. You don't need the upgrade now in the same way that if you have luggage, there's no point standing up first when the plane lands.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Can you expand on why using PartAlert results in 'paying over the odds and rewarding scalpers'? Genuinely interested in the reasons for this (more related to rewarding scalpers part) as I wasn't aware how getting a 3080 FE for retail price was a bad thing (especially when they are £649 which is a lot less that most AIB cards, especially when prices are being jacked up by some well known retailers). Fair enough I've wasted a lot of time listening out for alerts (and wish I'd just selected the FE only channel and set my alert tone to a different one right away!).

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Is there a limit to the number of FE drops, or will they continue until the rumoured 3080TI?

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Can you expand on why using PartAlert results in 'paying over the odds and rewarding scalpers'? Genuinely interested in the reasons for this (more related to rewarding scalpers part) as I wasn't aware how getting a 3080 FE for retail price was a bad thing (especially when they are £649 which is a lot less that most AIB cards, especially when prices are being jacked up by some well known retailers). Fair enough I've wasted a lot of time listening out for alerts (and wish I'd just selected the FE only channel and set my alert tone to a different one right away!).
    It's about supply and demand. If no-one wanted to reward scalpers by buying from them, they wouldn't exist; they make their money because they can restrict supply. Take away their demand, and you take away their power. Of course, other people may still use scalpers, you have no control over that, but at least you're not contributing the problem at the same time as suffering the results, if you just wait until supply becomes big enough that the scalpers can't restrict it.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    It's about supply and demand. If no-one wanted to reward scalpers by buying from them, they wouldn't exist; they make their money because they can restrict supply.
    I thought people were discussing buying from shops, not scalpers? The alert services are just about letting you know when shops have parts in stock.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    I didnt know there was more FE cards coming from Nvidia, I thought they were doing a launch batch and that was it..

    Surely if they are going to drop more FE cards then the AIB's are going to struggle selling cards that come close to the cost of the next model up's RRP...
    They'll continue to drop FE cards, the only time I can see them stopping is when they're due to release the 4xxx series, at which point the cycle will start again. People can use the part alert services, join discords etc for the drops, I found as much luck (more as it was quicker than the alerts arrived) just bookmarking This page for the founders editions and checking in every now and then. It does help to stay logged into the Scan website for adding to basket and checking out.

    As for timing, I randomly found mine and ordered it at 18:58, so not sure what time the link became active on the Nvidia website.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I thought people were discussing buying from shops, not scalpers? The alert services are just about letting you know when shops have parts in stock.
    That was my first thought too. I can only think that [EDIT] wazzickle is referring to the fact that some of these sites show eBay as having these items in stock (but only at scalper prices, of course).

    AFAIK very few people are stupid/desperate enough to pay these prices though. I certainly wouldn't.

    P.S. Actually, I should've included Amazon in the above too. as I was typing this, a 3080 stock alert pinged up for Amazon UK. But when I checked, they're priced at £889. No thanks!
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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    I'm referring to the entire ecosystem. Simple rules of supply and demand. Prices come down if you just wait, because you've waited, and independently of you waiting. How that plays out within the specific ecosystem is that fewer middlemen can make enough money to justify it, whether or not you use those middlemen.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I thought people were discussing buying from shops, not scalpers? The alert services are just about letting you know when shops have parts in stock.
    One good response to scalpers is to raise prices. If your RRRP is £500 but people are buying from scalpers for £800, your product is incorrectly priced, and you can cut out the profit of the middleman by raising the price. The end consumer sees no difference, but the scalpers are cut out, and profit goes to people who deserve it. AFAIK this method is often used when it comes to pricing for gigs and suchlike.

    If you are lucky enough to get a card at the advertised value, then you should of course do that, but my understanding of the stock shortages right now are such that it's a huge time commitment for a vanishingly small chance of picking up what you want at the price you want. So it's much easier to wait.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by wazzickle View Post
    If your RRRP is £500 but people are buying from scalpers for £800, your product is incorrectly priced,
    I hope people aren't paying that.

    From a quick look at the Discord channel for Stock Informer, the 3060ti looks like you have to be really on your toes but for £780 you can just order am MSI 3080 from Currys. That was a vanishingly small effort which if I was after a 3060ti and prepared to pay scalper prices would get me a reasonable deal in for form of not paying a scalper and a good upgrade.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Scan usually drops between the hours of 12-4pm. However their most recent 3080/3090FE drop was at 10am which was a bit random.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by FiizZniiTz View Post
    Scan usually drops between the hours of 12-4pm. However their most recent 3080/3090FE drop was at 10am which was a bit random.
    Is the link to the drops the same each time?

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    Is the link to the drops the same each time?
    No each Scan FE URL is different every drop.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    There was a Scan drop yesterday at 2:10pm. Seemed different this time - not sure if Scan have changed how they manage their basket and checkout procedure? It said they were out of stock at 2:13pm but the buy button came back periodically - I'm guessing it was either allocating stock as soon as it was in a customer's basket (then releasing the stock if it wasn't purchased) or they staggered the stock release. People were still able to buy 30 mins later if they kept refreshing.

    Anyway, my point is... if you just miss a Scan drop and it claims its out of stock, keep trying - you may have around 20-30 mins to pick something up.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Which page do the FE cards show up on Scan? I never seen them listed in the nvidia card pages, just the AIB versions.

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    Re: 3000 founders edition cards UK

    Quote Originally Posted by xbloke View Post
    There was a Scan drop yesterday at 2:10pm. Seemed different this time - not sure if Scan have changed how they manage their basket and checkout procedure? It said they were out of stock at 2:13pm but the buy button came back periodically - I'm guessing it was either allocating stock as soon as it was in a customer's basket (then releasing the stock if it wasn't purchased) or they staggered the stock release. People were still able to buy 30 mins later if they kept refreshing.

    Anyway, my point is... if you just miss a Scan drop and it claims its out of stock, keep trying - you may have around 20-30 mins to pick something up.
    Sorry, probably a noob question but how do you get the alerts, do you have to add individual 3080 models to your wish list?

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