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    PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    It all started the other day when my computer stinkily blew up.
    I assumed it was the PSU and swapped my Antec Smartpower 500 for a brand new Tagan 700.
    The computer wouldn't POST -the fans would twitch but that was all.
    So I assumed I'd fried the mobo.

    SO I replaced my old Asus P5W DH Deluxe + E6600 + 2 x 1 GB 533 DDR2 RAM
    with an Asus P5QL-E + Q9550 + 2 x 2 GB 1066 DDR2 RAM

    and still the bastard won't POST.
    I've tried getting it to POST without Graphics card and without RAM - but still all I get is a moment of power as the fans twitch and then nothing.

    Yes I have checked that both the 24 pin and the 8 pin power connectors are connected correctly.
    I have tried booting with all fans disconnected too.

    What do you reckon I should look atg now?
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Man, that must be really annoying!
    I'd try booting with the motherboard outside of the case and nothing installed other than the cpu and power supply connections. That should give you _something_ hopefully.
    Have you got a multimeter or a power supply tester?

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    You have probably got a short cct somewhere - and teh PSU is shutting itself down (either that or youhave been really unlucky and got a PSU that is DoA - unlikely but possible.

    As viper says, build a minimum system outside the case - put the mobo on a shet of cardboard, and test it that way. Don't run it without the CPU fan though. Even with the system powered down (but the PSU connected and switched on at the wall) you should get an LED alight on the mobo.

    If that doesn't work, then test the PSU - you will need a multimeter and a dummy load of some sort - but IMHO those PSU testers that are sold for a few pounds (or given away) are pretty much useless - they don't provide any worthwhile load at all. An old car headlight or indicator lamp can be used as a load if required.
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Found the problem

    The boot HDD must have a short on the power side.

    if it is connected to the PSU then I get the fault whether or not it is connected to the mobo.

    I got this by building up a system outside the case.

    Oh bugger

    all my applications are on there and a partition with 120 GB of storage ( not backed up)...
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Thats pretty bad if the HD is stopping the PSU from starting the system. But it also sounds like the PSU is shutting down, preventing itself from being harmed by the short.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    all my applications are on there and a partition with 120 GB of storage ( not backed up)...
    How important is that data to you? Is it worth a few hundred pounds?

    There are data recovery companies that should be able to get that for you, even if it means replacing the whole PCB on the dead drive. That is assuming the data is intact on the drive itself.

    Backups are good

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post


    How important is that data to you? Is it worth a few hundred pounds?
    All my software licences for my studio apps and plugs are on there

    if the companies won't let me reactivate then i stand to lose about £2k
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    If it's Adobe, then you can get all your license keys by loggin into their site.

    Others I have no idea about.

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    If it's Adobe, then you can get all your license keys by loggin into their site.

    Others I have no idea about.
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Well, all the more reason you should have been backed up

    I can understand if someone doesn't bother backing up a few MP3s and things they have downloaded, but when it is part of a commercial setup, there really isn't any excuse in my opinion.

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    Well, all the more reason you should have been backed up

    I can understand if someone doesn't bother backing up a few MP3s and things they have downloaded, but when it is part of a commercial setup, there really isn't any excuse in my opinion.
    it's not commercial

    merely a hobby home studio

    some people play games i make music

    that said i was looking into a backup solution when it went pop - i was getting paranoid that i had too much valuable stuff

    here's hoping i can get everything reactivated once reinstalled
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Oh, I just assumed it would be commercial

    Thats one reason I love my NAS boxes, I can just copy everything onto them. Granted it's not the "ultimate" in backups, but a copy on a RADI-5 nas is enough for me. My email is through a hosted Exchange service, so if Outlook dies, I just sync it all down again and I'm good to go. Though I do also take backups of that as well.

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Are you using the same SATA data cable as before? If so, consider replacing it...

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    anyone got a Thailand made Seagate ST3200822AS running firmware 3.01 that I could swap out the logic board on?
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Quote Originally Posted by smargh View Post
    Are you using the same SATA data cable as before? If so, consider replacing it...
    why should I bin it?
    will it be fubared too?
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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    I was just thinking that perhaps it was the cable which became knackered, not the HDD.

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    Re: PC still won't POST replaced MOBO CPU RAM PSU...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    if it is connected to the PSU then I get the fault whether or not it is connected to the mobo.
    Quote Originally Posted by smargh View Post
    I was just thinking that perhaps it was the cable which became knackered, not the HDD.
    Sounds like the power side of the drive to me

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