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    Which email to use?

    YahooMail has had yet *another* hack and billions of users' data has been nicked...

    Soooo...... what are the best free email accounts of choice, these days?
    I have a Gmail account, but find it very clunky and lacking the features Yahoo has had for years.

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    Re: Which email to use?

    Suck it up and pay.

    £1.2 a month if you don't have any other services: https://www.1and1.co.uk/email-address#email-tariffs

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    Re: Which email to use?

    What kind of features are you actually after?

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    Re: Which email to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    Suck it up and pay.
    For a 2GB service from a company I've never even heard of?
    So much for being "the biggest name"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy View Post
    What kind of features are you actually after?
    I like the folders, preview pane, keyboard shortcuts, 1TB storage, thread grouping... user-friendly stuff like that, mostly.
    Now also wanting something that doesn't get hacked every other month.

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    Re: Which email to use?

    +1 for 1&1. I use them to host domains and associated email. They are very good, great value and the Webmail client is fine if you prefer to access that way (although I access via mail clients).

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    Re: Which email to use?

    £2.50 per user per month for Exchange Online

    https://products.office.com/en-gb/ex...xchange-online

    If you want free then you need to understand how they're funding the free service. No SLA is one reason for it...

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    Re: Which email to use?

    What's the general consensus on Outlook? Thought they data mined for adds but looks like they don't.

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    Re: Which email to use?

    Or, if you have a NAS or something at home running all the time, host your own.

    Pick up a domain for a few quid a year and point the MX records to your DDNS or static IP address, spin up a copy of Postfix and a mail server of your choice, I use Dovecot and there we go. Push email, for free.

    What if your Internet goes down for a bit? Doesn't matter. Email was designed around dial-up. Servers retry sending mail for days before notifying the sender that you're currently unavailable.

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    Re: Which email to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    Or, if you have a NAS or something at home running all the time, host your own.

    Pick up a domain for a few quid a year and point the MX records to your DDNS or static IP address, spin up a copy of Postfix and a mail server of your choice, I use Dovecot and there we go. Push email, for free.

    What if your Internet goes down for a bit? Doesn't matter. Email was designed around dial-up. Servers retry sending mail for days before notifying the sender that you're currently unavailable.
    Just what I do with postfix and dovecot!

    Makes making disposable e mail addresses a doddle. Generally it's better to use it to relay outgoing email to your IP server (or send it directly) as it saves you from implementing things like Sender Policy Frameworks, so check that your ISP permits mail relay forwarding from your account.

    (And make sure when setting it up you don't make an open relay - I did very early on and it transmitted over 30,000 spam emails in 36 hours -

    Fortunately I detected it before my ISP did, although I did send them a report and an apology.
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    Re: Which email to use?

    That all sounds a bit beyond the realms of what I was looking for TBH, chaps...
    I only know what a NAS is because we have one at work.

    I'm just looking for a straightforward, secure email account that does the basics, can also be accessed from my phone and is ideally free.

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    Re: Which email to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    That all sounds a bit beyond the realms of what I was looking for TBH, chaps...
    I only know what a NAS is because we have one at work.

    I'm just looking for a straightforward, secure email account that does the basics, can also be accessed from my phone and is ideally free.
    Have you tried Outlook? I have shifted most of my email over to it from Gmail. As far as I can work out they do not trawl it for targeted advertising, its free, works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flibb View Post
    Have you tried Outlook? I have shifted most of my email over to it from Gmail. As far as I can work out they do not trawl it for targeted advertising, its free, works well.
    It was on my radar, although I know very little about it. We use the (unrelated) Office app, obviously, but I only know of the horrendous Hotmail that came before.

    Not relishing trawling through half the internet to update my email, either. I must have had this one for, what, 18 years now?

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    Re: Which email to use?

    I used to use Outlook.com for my main email, but a recent update messed with the way it handles forwards and "send from" addresses - however if you're only after a free email account with a service-provided email address (rather than having addresses on your own domain) I rate it as a service. Due to the annoying breaking update though I've had to switch my accounts across to gmail, which makes it much easier to handle send-from addresses.

    Is your current email address an @yahoo one then? If so the only way you'll be able to keep that is to keep using Yahoo. Given the breach you're talking about was more than 3 years ago, leaving now feels a lot like shutting the door after the horse has bolted...

    One thought - if you want phone access, what kind of phone do you have? Most email accounts can be set up on phones, but some are easier than others (e.g. gmail on android is dead easy).

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    Re: Which email to use?

    From a purely visual POV, Yahoo Mail and Gmail are almost identical.

    What is it you find clunky about Gmail?

    I like the folders, preview pane, keyboard shortcuts, 1TB storage, thread grouping... user-friendly stuff like that, mostly.
    Now also wanting something that doesn't get hacked every other month.
    Gmail does folders but calls it labels.
    Gmail labs can add a preview pane.
    Keyboard shortcuts are there
    1TB of storage isn't there for free, but can be added. I've used Gmail (and all the other Google services) for years and still haven't hit the 15GB limit.
    Thread grouping is there too.
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    Re: Which email to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    If so the only way you'll be able to keep that is to keep using Yahoo.
    Not a concern, really.

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Given the breach you're talking about was more than 3 years ago, leaving now feels a lot like shutting the door after the horse has bolted...
    I know... just worrying that the next one might hit me more seriously, is all.

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    One thought - if you want phone access, what kind of phone do you have?
    Andy 5.1.1 for now.

    Quote Originally Posted by mycarsavw View Post
    What is it you find clunky about Gmail?
    No preview pane, non-standard shortcuts, messy and cluttered menus, settings a bit wishy-washy, just generally not as user-friendly, really. Seems I have to hunt for things that most other apps place somewhere obvious.

    Most of it is in how it's done, rather than what features are 'there'.... somewhere... if you happen to look in the right place, at the right time, when the sun is at its zenith and your Staff of Ra isn't too long....!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mycarsavw View Post
    Gmail does folders but calls it labels.
    If I have to ask, it's not done well enough!

    Quote Originally Posted by mycarsavw View Post
    I've used Gmail (and all the other Google services) for years and still haven't hit the 15GB limit.
    I'm at 30GB on Yahoo and 5GB already on Gmail, after less than a year.

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