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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by this_is_gav View Post
    Yes of course... but why does the very real X58 northbridge exist if P55 is essentially without one?
    The X58 'northbridge' just contains the PCI-E hub. It doesn't need any kind of cooling, but people like blinging it up anyway.

    Core i5 has it built into the CPU, so no need for it.

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    I was confusing i7 and i5 too. AM2 is much simpler

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    The X58 'northbridge' just contains the PCI-E hub. It doesn't need any kind of cooling, but people like blinging it up anyway.

    Core i5 has it built into the CPU, so no need for it.
    It can and does get hot, although not quite in the same way that the good old NB did. As well as being the PCI-E hub, it's also the gateway to the rest of the ins and out on your PC.

    As for not needing any kind of cooling, well, just try it for yourself, grab a decent graphics card or two and give it a run with some games without any cooling and see how far you get.

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Doesn't need active cooling I should have said.


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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    I'm confused by this board...

    It's being released around the same time as the Lynnfield processors, and yet it has a DVI output even though i5 won't have any IGPs until Westmere comes out months later - why not release a board with no IGP outputs (which presumably would be cheaper to produce) to coincide with Lynnfield, and then release a new range (complete with IGP outputs) to go with Westmere when that comes along??

    Also, why does it have three PCI-E sockets when i5 only supports 16 lanes?


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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by CK_1985 View Post
    I'm confused by this board...

    It's being released around the same time as the Lynnfield processors, and yet it has a DVI output even though i5 won't have any IGPs until Westmere comes out months later - why not release a board with no IGP outputs (which presumably would be cheaper to produce) to coincide with Lynnfield, and then release a new range (complete with IGP outputs) to go with Westmere when that comes along??
    So that you can keep the same motherboard instead of having to buy a new one (+OEM windows)

    Also, why does it have three PCI-E sockets when i5 only supports 16 lanes?
    It has one 16 lane PCI-E socket, one 8 lane and one 4 lane. The latter certainly goes to the southbridge rather than the CPU, so is for peripherals, likely the same for the 8 lane as well, though it could work with the primary slot for 2x8 xfire I suppose.

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    So that you can keep the same motherboard instead of having to buy a new one (+OEM windows)
    Fair point, although I can see confused early adopters buying one of these and a lynnfield processor on launch day, putting it togther and plugging their monitor into the mobo and then getting very annoyed becase it doesn't work... Admittedly they'd have to be fairly silly and should have done their homework properly, but still...

    Also, I can see myself buying a Lynnfield processor but I definitely don't want a Westmere because they're only going to be dual-core - so I would never use those display outputs but i'm still paying for them. Unless there's a quad-core Westmere further down the line that I don't know about?

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by CK_1985 View Post
    Unless there's a quad-core Westmere further down the line that I don't know about?
    No, there seems to be a very mysterious gap in Intel's road map for that. Either Intel are planning to continue offering 45nm Lynnefield derivatives alongside the life of westmere, or they're being sneaky to try and throw off AMD's intelligence (given this is the very segment AMD will be targeting the strongest).

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    What do you guy's think this will offer performance wise?
    I'm not that knowledgeable there.

    From what I understand with i7, that offers a lot more performance over LGA775.
    And i5 is just a cheaper cut down version?
    I'm guessing that these i5 must have a decent leap in performance over the current Quad Core.
    Those chips are just two Dual Core processors stuck together?

    Still, I'm not really convinced with this i5 range. Wouldn't it be wiser to simply wait for i7 to come down in price?

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by CK_1985 View Post
    I'm confused by this board...

    It's being released around the same time as the Lynnfield processors, and yet it has a DVI output even though i5 won't have any IGPs until Westmere comes out months later - why not release a board with no IGP outputs (which presumably would be cheaper to produce) to coincide with Lynnfield, and then release a new range (complete with IGP outputs) to go with Westmere when that comes along??

    Also, why does it have three PCI-E sockets when i5 only supports 16 lanes?

    Remember this is at cebit so companies are demonstrating the products they feel will be most interesting and advanced.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyV9 View Post
    What do you guy's think this will offer performance wise?
    I'm not that knowledgeable there.

    From what I understand with i7, that offers a lot more performance over LGA775.
    And i5 is just a cheaper cut down version?
    I'm guessing that these i5 must have a decent leap in performance over the current Quad Core.
    Those chips are just two Dual Core processors stuck together?

    Still, I'm not really convinced with this i5 range. Wouldn't it be wiser to simply wait for i7 to come down in price?
    Im *guessing* the performance to be inbetween i7 and higher end C2 parts. Its not quite just a cut down version if you read the article it explains some of the differences briefly.

    These are native quad parts and not just duals stuck together

    i7 probably wont come down in price too far, its a higher end part and intel probaly intend to keep it up there. The only reason i can see them dropping the price is if AMD really hit the floor with something interesting but iv seen no wind of this, we will have to wait and see i guess.
    Last edited by Biscuit; 08-03-2009 at 01:45 PM.

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Come on I'm still waiting on a budget AM3 or i5 mATX board!
    Scan FTW

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    Re: News - Gigabyte shows P55 board: socket is much smaller than Core i7

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Cool View Post
    Come on I'm still waiting on a budget AM3 or i5 mATX board!
    you will be waiting untill the recession is over mate. migth as well grab a i7 now mate

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