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    News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    NVIDIA demonstrates Fermi's supposed superiority at tessellation, but will it translate to real-world performance?
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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    OMG, this is now really worrying for nVidia....this screams of them hand-picking the one benchmark that shows it in a good light vs the 5870 and even then, it's marginal?

    You will be able to count the amount of nVidia fanboys in the world by Fermi sales.......
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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Assuming those figures are anywhere near accurate, it suggests the 480 can maintain double the minimum fps during intensive scenes. This is much more important than getting 200fps while looking at the floor.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by sadbuttrue View Post
    Assuming those figures are anywhere near accurate, it suggests the 480 can maintain double the minimum fps during intensive scenes. This is much more important than getting 200fps while looking at the floor.
    You mean 'during intensive benchmarks that don't represent real world games'?

    Benchmarks absolutely have their role, and it suggests that the tessellation in nVidia's card really is quite good.. but given it's a dx11 only feature I have my severe doubts that developers are going to go anywhere near a tessellation limited game - at most it'll be a bit of eye candy ontop of an engine really designed for consoles. Raw polygon and texture throughput, together with shader speed, are going to be the most important factors in whether this is better at gaming or not, and cherry picking one specific facet suggests they're struggling to even beat ATI's upper rangecard that's been out for a while, let alone ATI's top card.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by sadbuttrue View Post
    Assuming those figures are anywhere near accurate, it suggests the 480 can maintain double the minimum fps during intensive scenes. This is much more important than getting 200fps while looking at the floor.
    except those intense scenes are tessellation heavy where in 10.2 and below the 5870 sucks, however the 10.3 beta seems to have fixed this and now the 480 should be only marginally better at this benchmark, so it may still be crap in other benches/games.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    So nVidia find that their own benchmark gives their cards better scores? Yeah, I'll wait for the 3rd party results to come out, thanks.

    Even if that is the result, I bet the nVidia cards will require more juice, run hotter, and have a higher failure rate.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    You will be able to count the amount of nVidia fanboys in the world by Fermi sales.......
    On one hand.

    This is utter failure on Nvidia's part. I used to be a fan of Nvidia but no more. They've gone crazy. They think they can sell a half baked video card that runs hot as a blow torch, maxes out power requirements and is more expensive than the much better ATI card. Sorry, I won't bite. I'm not stupid, and hopefully so aren't the Nvidia fanboys. And besides, just as few are supporting physx, I doubt if you are going to any games supporting fermi. Don't waste your money.

    And isn't it funny that they don't give any comparison to the 5970? Which is about the same price?

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by borandi View Post
    So nVidia find that their own benchmark gives their cards better scores? Yeah, I'll wait for the 3rd party results to come out, thanks.

    Even if that is the result, I bet the nVidia cards will require more juice, run hotter, and have a higher failure rate.
    You forgot to mention higher price as well...

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Damn. There goes any hope of this sparking a price war

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan9773 View Post
    This is utter failure on Nvidia's part. I used to be a fan of Nvidia but no more. They've gone crazy. They think they can sell a half baked video card that runs hot as a blow torch, maxes out power requirements and is more expensive than the much better ATI card.
    Now, where have we heard this before... oh yeah, NV30... still, they bounced back from that quite well.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Or the HD2900. Both sides have produced stinkers.

    And though I am also expecting that it would run hotter than I'd want it's not a fact yet. And unless Linux support has clearly improved on AMD's end (there are people who dual-boot), there are still valid reasons for going nVidia without being a fanboy (CUDA being another reason).

    How much faster is the 5970 over the 5870?

    Quote Originally Posted by borandi View Post
    So nVidia find that their own benchmark gives their cards better scores? Yeah, I'll wait for the 3rd party results to come out, thanks.
    We all do. Then again, Intel's benchmark for Core 2 turned out to be representative of it's performance in the end.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    I thought the above benchmark was 3rd party anyway ? Also, isn't fastest card the 5870X2 ?
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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    I thought the above benchmark was 3rd party anyway ? Also, isn't fastest card the 5870X2 ?
    One problem; the 5870x2 is not availabale yet and only specs and details have been leaked..... Sounds oddly familar; heard that somewhere before.

    On a serious note if anyone has a 5850 and 5870 and an i7 @3.3 could they bench it for comparison? People on other forums are complaining they get similar benches for the 5870 (as listed in the NV benchmark) when the OC their 5850s to 5870 speeds. Interested to see if anyone can confirm/replicate this.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    OMG, this is now really worrying for nVidia....this screams of them hand-picking the one benchmark that shows it in a good light vs the 5870 and even then, it's marginal?

    You will be able to count the amount of nVidia fanboys in the world by Fermi sales.......
    Obviously they would never pick something which makes Fermi suck, but surely they would pick a benchmark which gives them a better edge? Strange................

    Guess the wait continues for more benchmarks, not long till launch though.

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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Another benchmark from Nvidia about how better their card will be against ati's newest offerings, yawn, yawn, yawn...



    I dont know about anyone else but my excitement was high for nvidias response for a few months after the 5 series release but its been so long now Im finding myself becoming uninterested at nvidias faffing around trying to tell us it will be better. Release the sodding card already!

    p.s. try not to disable the fan on the first driver release..
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    Re: News - NVIDIA benchmarks GeForce GTX 480 against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5870

    Surely they need to get the power usage down on this thing...

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