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[aidanjt]

So how do you transfer your music/video/podcast collection?

SMB, MTP, HTTP, FTP, SCP, Torrent, Usenet, Mass storage transfer over USB, via SD cards, etc., etc... A shorter list might be how many ways can you not transfer your music/video/podcast collection.

[miniyazz]

I would have thought that anyone buying an iPhone would likely already have a PC to use it with, or already have iTunes installed and/or purchased music, so I fail to see how not needing iTunes is a huge advantage. It might be a bit slow and clunky at times (note to Apple, please streamline this), but plugging in your iPhone to copy over your music collection is no more/less inconvenient than plugging in your Android device to do exactly the same thing. I'd argue that the iPhone approach is actually simpler because it does this all automatically whereas the Android device would require you to hunt down your music collection and copy the folders across manually.

I must be one of those incredibly rare people who didn't and still don't have iTunes installed despite having owned an iPod Touch for several years. It leaves parts of itself running in the background (that I'm aware of, and can therefore disable) - what else does it do to slow down my computer that I don't know about?
To update with music/firmware, I have iTunes installed on a dedicated virtual machine. Not exactly what I expect many people to do, but it is a big disadvantage for me that it requires iTunes.

[mrochester]

SMB, MTP, HTTP, FTP, SCP, Torrent, Usenet, Mass storage transfer over USB, via SD cards, etc., etc... A shorter list might be how many ways can you not transfer your music/video/podcast collection.

I still don't understand why you'd need all of those different methods to get your content from your PC to phone. Surely the way you'd do it on an Android phone is exactly the same way you'd do it on an iPhone (i.e., you'd connect the device or memory card to the PC)?

[kopite]

I still don't understand why you'd need all of those different methods to get your content from your PC to phone. Surely the way you'd do it on an Android phone is exactly the same way you'd do it on an iPhone (i.e., you'd connect the device or memory card to the PC)?

The whole point of aidanjt`s extensive list is that there are loads of ways to put music on your android phone. many that dont require the user to have a computer.

If you have a computer then its very easy to drag and drop songs accross to your phone. Its much simpler than itunes.

There`s also google music which is up and running in the us atm Which is a Cloud based music system so again no need to access a pc for your music.

If you really must have an itunes style program there is doubletwist which allows you to sync your music and is even better than itunes as it can be done wirelessly as well.

Itunes is an awful program on windows Up there with AOL and Norton in the most hated software out there. i`d even go as far as to say its worse than realplayer was back in the day

[mrochester]

The whole point of aidanjt`s extensive list is that there are loads of ways to put music on your android phone. many that dont require the user to have a computer.

If you have a computer then its very easy to drag and drop songs accross to your phone. Its much simpler than itunes.

There`s also google music which is up and running in the us atm Which is a Cloud based music system so again no need to access a pc for your music.

If you really must have an itunes style program there is doubletwist which allows you to sync your music and is even better than itunes as it can be done wirelessly as well.

Itunes is an awful program on windows Up there with AOL and Norton in the most hated software out there. i`d even go as far as to say its worse than realplayer was back in the day

Manually dragging and dropping your music is simpler than iTunes automatically syncing the same content? I think you've got an uphill battle to convince people that manually dragging and dropping your music is easier than an automatic sync .

[kopite]

Well Yeah.

Android version of copying music.

1. Drag music you want to your phone.
2. Done

Iphone version

1. Create Playlist of music you want to copy on to your iphone.
2. Click sync
3.done

That looks like an extra step to me? Or am I missing something?

[Moby-Dick]

iTunes is the whole reason I refuse to own an apple product.

[aidanjt]

I still don't understand why you'd need all of those different methods to get your content from your PC to phone. Surely the way you'd do it on an Android phone is exactly the same way you'd do it on an iPhone (i.e., you'd connect the device or memory card to the PC)?

The point is you get to choose the method which is most suitable for how you work. The device adapts to you, rather than you having to adapt to the device. And no, the source doesn't have to be your PC, the source can be virtually anything.

[mrochester]

Well Yeah.

Android version of copying music.

1. Drag music you want to your phone.
2. Done

Iphone version

1. Create Playlist of music you want to copy on to your iphone.
2. Click sync
3.done

That looks like an extra step to me? Or am I missing something?

Yeah you're missing quite a few steps

Android:

Plug device into PC, and mount memory card if not selected by default. Browse to content on PC. Copy content. Browse to SD card and past content.

iPhone:

Connect iPhone to PC.

Quite a lot simpler with the iPhone.

[aidanjt]

Yeah you're missing quite a few steps

Android:

Plug device into PC, and mount memory card if not selected by default. Browse to content on PC. Copy content. Browse to SD card and past content.

iPhone:

Connect iPhone to PC.

Quite a lot simpler with the iPhone.

Oh come on now, that's horribly disingenuous. Optional MTP support provides an 'itunes-like' device syncing process if that's what you want. You're not being forced to transfer via SD if you don't want to.

[kopite]

Yeah you're missing quite a few steps

Android:

Plug device into PC, and mount memory card if not selected by default. Browse to content on PC. Copy content. Browse to SD card and past content.

iPhone:

Connect iPhone to PC.

Quite a lot simpler with the iPhone.

Ok I give you I missed out the plug device in step but I assumed both where already plugged in and ready.

There is a thing on Windows called windows explorer. It has this amazing feature whereby you Can drag files from a folder on to a drive listed on the left. Its an amazing feature thats only been around for over 10 years..

Here`s an updated list then

android:

1. plug in phone(lest assume its set to automount)
2. Open up your music folder
3. drag music from the music folder to the drive listed on the left hand side.
4. done

Iphone:
1. Plug in Iphone
2. Load up itunes
3. create playlist
4. Sync playlist
5. done

Still one step less. And thats not taking into account the extra programs that are loaded by Itunes in the background.

The main point is with Android its a much simpler process without using any resource hungry programs. But as aidanjt you are not forced to do it this way there are a multitude of different ways to copy music accross. IF you want the Itunes style Process then you can use double twist as I`ve mentioned before and that even negates the need to be connected to the pc as it can sync over the wifi

[mrochester]

Ok I give you I missed out the plug device in step but I assumed both where already plugged in and ready.

There is a thing on Windows called windows explorer. It has this amazing feature whereby you Can drag files from a folder on to a drive listed on the left. Its an amazing feature thats only been around for over 10 years..

Here`s an updated list then

android:

1. plug in phone(lest assume its set to automount)
2. Open up your music folder
3. drag music from the music folder to the drive listed on the left hand side.
4. done

Iphone:
1. Plug in Iphone
2. Load up itunes
3. create playlist
4. Sync playlist
5. done

Still one step less. And thats not taking into account the extra programs that are loaded by Itunes in the background.

The main point is with Android its a much simpler process without using any resource hungry programs. But as aidanjt you are not forced to do it this way there are a multitude of different ways to copy music accross. IF you want the Itunes style Process then you can use double twist as I`ve mentioned before and that even negates the need to be connected to the pc as it can sync over the wifi

Step 2, 3 and 4 aren't required for the iPhone so it's only one step. I'm afraid you're not going to be able to convince me that manually managing and copying my music collection is simpler than having it synced automatically. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[kopite]

So the Iphone doesnt even need itunes now then?

[Smudger]

How does iTunes know what music you want on your iThing?

[peterb]

I must be one of those incredibly rare people who didn't and still don't have iTunes installed despite having owned an iPod Touch for several years. It leaves parts of itself running in the background (that I'm aware of, and can therefore disable) - what else does it do to slow down my computer that I don't know about?
To update with music/firmware, I have iTunes installed on a dedicated virtual machine. Not exactly what I expect many people to do, but it is a big disadvantage for me that it requires iTunes.

I am part if that rare breed too, I use Amarok on a Linux box to transfer mpr tracks to my Ipod mini. There are other open source programs (or apps to use the current buzzword) to trnsfer content to later devices.

Itunes though does seem to work better on the OS it was designed for than it does on windows.

[mrochester]

So the Iphone doesnt even need itunes now then?

It starts automatically so no manual intervention required .

How does iTunes know what music you want on your iThing?
Today 10:17 AM

It'll sync everything unless you select otherwise .