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About LinkBacksThe interesting thing I picked up from this survey is that someone who owns an iPhone actually admitted it wasn't the greatest invention since the wheel.
Unusual.
The interesting thing I picked up from this survey is that someone who owns an iPhone actually admitted it wasn't the greatest invention since the wheel.
Unusual.
I'm slowly getting more weary with Android - to the point where I'm even considering a Blackberry next time.
- Gmail doesn't work unless I run vanilla
- The Market is improved, but still mostly full of rubbish apps
- The alarm clock has a hideous bug where you can't turn it off if you lock the screen while it's ringing
- Storage is appalling - I have a 4GB card and only a fraction of the onboard memory is reserved for apps? Thank god for App2SD and even then Flash doesn't support it
- No updates since 2.2 since the OS is so fragmented, fair enough I should be upgrading, but the phone wasn't cheap and the whole system feels a little unfinished
The battery is actually good provided you don't turn on WiFi, and will last a good two days without mobile internet on.
I don't have any particular draw to the iPhone save that the storage space can be used for whatever you want and the UI is lovely - Android just looks disjointed. At least Blackberry has a consistent interface, even if there are few apps for it.
Maybe even a Windows phone next time, one of my friends had one and it was gorgeous to look at - not sure if the phone side is any good though.
Ah maybe you can. I'd still prefer my current method where those battery-sucking things are automatically disabled when they can no longer be used, though, without me having to press anything or unlock the screen.Originally Posted by Biscuit
Doesn't having no signal kinda prevent you from receiving calls and texts anyway?!Being on call for a few days over the weekend meant I didn't have much time to use my phone (Desire HD), and was too tired to be bothered plugging it in to charge when I got home. So, 60 hours later (2 and a half days) I finish the on call, I check my battery... 45%. Try doing that with an iphone
To clarify further, my place of work has no signal so my phone automatically turns off automatic synching and data connectivity so it wasn't continuously being kept alive by various email and other programs trying to connect to the interwebs. But to achieve anything like that battery life with an iphone, I would have had to enable airplane mode, which would have prevented me receiving calls/texts.
You can certainly get good battery life out of an iPhone too if you barely use it. I've upgraded my iPhone, so my old iPhone 3G is currently sitting there with no push email configured and an old Three SIM card that will never receive any calls and texts. It's taken 5 days to tick down to 51%. Of course you can make your battery last for ages if you don't actually use the phone and you don't have any background tasks running!
Is it ok if i say my play is the best thing since sliced bread? i adore my phone and it is the first phone i have actually liked everything about...
Iphone is a good phone but it just has its own problems, Anyhow what does it matter? the cattle follow no matter what, i'm betting apply could remove wifi and the cattle would still buy
It was so small that mine wouldn't fit into it
I think the majority of those are dependent on the ROM being used.
On my SGS2, Gmail works regardless of ROM, be it factory, modded, or completely different, such as CM7. And I have 4 accounts for it to work with too - 1 personal and 3 for work through Google Apps.
I can stop my alarm ringing without unlocking the phone (if I've read you right). I use Kaloer Clock if that makes any difference.
I do agree that the way Android uses storage is poor, and it changes from system to system. Going from a Desire to a SGS2, I've still no idea what's going on. With the SGS2, you've got 2 parts of internal storage (standard and "USB", then an SD card on top of that), and CM7 doesn't seem to have a clue how to use it in my experience. It will usually see media on an SD card, but certain programs won't even acknowledge that an SD card exists. It's impossible for some video players to see videos on the SD card. As I remember, it wasn't much better with a stock-based ROM, it just fell over in a different way.
Obviously your last point is dependent on carrier, manufacturer or 3rd-party ROMs, but it would be nice if there was a more defined standard or schedule pressed by Google.
Most aspects of Android I love, yet others are infuriating. I like the flexible approach, but it still seems rather clunky in a few ways if you dig a bit deeper.
Not a Blackberry - oh the horror of it!(actually I'm kidding)
I suspect that a lot of these are faults specific to your particular phone:
- I've used Gmail on 1.6, 2.1, 2.3 and two CM6 (2.2) based ROMs - all worked fine. Oh, and my Android 3.x tablet works fine too. Big issue I had with this was that for a time I was getting duplicate warnings from the "Email" and "Gmail" apps about the same incoming message - most annoying;
- I think you'll find the Apple App Store has a similar problem. Certainly there seem to be a lot of frivolous apps and theme collections last time I looked. Still a lot of focus on quantity rather than quality;
- Alarm clock works fine for me, my X10 actually unlocks when the alarm goes off (is THIS a bug?). Haven't tried turning it off by locking the phone - I'll give that a go to see if it does fail;
- Storage handling, yes this IS a problem for the earlier OS revisions. Only bright side is that both the manufacturers and app vendors are getting better in this respect. The problem with Flash isn't down to Google, it Adobe that's to blame - app makers have to permit their software to be moved, obviously Adobe didn't;
- No updates is down to your phone manufacturer. Again, there small solace in that at least most of them now seem to "get" that we want/need those updates for a reasonable period of time - and 6-8 months is not a "reasonable period of time".
Ditto - WiFi seems to really drain the battery - a lot more than the normal mobile radio does which surprised me a little.
Got to say that Windows7Phone actually looks quite good - the fact that Nokia are now on board goes some way to convince me to seriously consider that platform as an alternative to my current Android phone when contract renewal time comes about. Can't say anything about Blackberry - although the Touch ones do look appealing.
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As others have mentioned, its probably more to do with your ROM and that specific handset than android itself. G-Mail is definitely a ROM issue, its quite simply superb on all my Android devices.
I had similar storage problems as you with my desire and i have also experienced the issue with the stock alarm clock. However when i switched to a desire S my storage problems went away as it has 1GB onboard and i now use alarm clock Xtreme instead of the stock as its very configurable and im very bad at getting up.
I think from this (and the many other threads arguing over the same thing) its quite clear that there is no particular current smartphone which has obviously better battery than another, its just a case of understanding your own phones capabilities and matching your usage to fit inbetween charge periods. I think we all do this without realizing.
I had a GT540, Android for £100. It was pretty rubbish, and I loaded some custom ROMs which made it a bit better for a while but then the whole thing just collapsed - had to send it back to retailer for repair.
So, this time, new contract, contract phone, got an HTC Sensation. I haven't fiddled with anything at all, and it has been absolutely fantastic. Is it purely a difference of phone hardware and quality of the ROM that's causing disappointment with Android rather than the OS itself?
Ok people 1 in 5 isn't a bad failure rate when you consider the amount of advertising Apple throw behind this product.
This need not become a holy war against andriod.
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I use an iPhone 4 (and previously a 3G) but I have to admit; I'm starting to get bored of iPhones. I'm bored of being attached to, essentially, a cult. A closed, walled-in cult.
Android presents me with the same problem but from the opposite end of the spectrum. There are far too many conceited Android users who think they're God's gift because they don't use Apple products. Regardless of this, I find Android handsets to look plasticy and lack any kind of premium aesthetic.
Windows Phone seems to be the only platform that doesn't (yet) have some kind of cultish fanbase surrounding it. Combined with the fact that some stunning Windows Phone devices are starting to make their way onto the market - I'm very much considering one next year.
Yes, fan boys (and girls?) are everywhere. Although from my experience, the folks that usually loudly preen that they're not giving into the Apple cult are the same ones who sneer if you admitting to running - or worse still, liking - Windows7. Likewise I find the attitude of some Applefans that "if you've got a (for example)Sony music player or phone then you're a Neanderthal" gets right up my nose.
Wouldn't agree with the "plasticy" jibe necessarily - to take an example, to me at least an SE Arc S is certainly more handsome than the 4 or 4S, but then again I thought the 3S was the zenith of Apple phone design. But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as the cliché says.
Again, won't agree - there ARE some WP7 fan boys pontificating loudly about how they've got a "serious" device; better suited to office than a Blackberry; whilst being more stable and "sorted" than any Android phone, but not beholden to the Apple jackboot.
Personally I'll be very interested to see if Nokia have anything novel available at MWC2012 - although I'd suggest that it'll be a safe bet to assume that they'll have something really good. Lumia 800 was just the appetizer, I'm waiting for the main course.
And, of course, you'll probably agree that this time next year we'll have surveys on how WP7 has failed to make the expected market penetration, disappointing devices, etc.What might be interesting would be if Hexus ran this question as their Question of the Week, (or Poll of the Week if that'd be better).
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I would say the stability is fair comment, any of the WP7 devices no matter how cheap they cost, they are stable! As for serious, well no, most of them arent. Touch screens just don't really seem to have the adoption rates in the business world, but it depends what people mean by office, because the pocket office apps are better than anything on the BB, however they lack full exchange and domain integration.
My point is both are kinda true, the latter just depends on what your idea of office is.I don't get what people are expecting as a novel innovation, I just want a battery life of weeks
Now this sounds like your sllightly anti WP7, as it stands its already failed to reach much in the way of market penetration lol, but I wouldn't call the devices disappointing.And, of course, you'll probably agree that this time next year we'll have surveys on how WP7 has failed to make the expected market penetration, disappointing devices, etc.
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Very much agreed.
I had signal at home and sporadically at work. I had about an hour of push email a day and perhaps 2 hours of display time. Half drained after 5 days is pretty good, although I'm not sure why you keep an iphone but don't use the phone? Surely sell it and buy a better specced ipod touch for less money?
Yeah, gonna sell it just as soon as I can be bothered to stick it on eBay. I was getting terrible battery life with push email enabled towards the end, so partly just wanted to see how far you can stretch the battery out through minimal use! Now on 40% after 6 days.
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