News - VLC 2.0 receives makeover

[aceuk]

MPC requires to much effort to find the required codecs

That's because you are using MPC instead of MPC-HC (which has many codecs built-in).

[abaxas]

^This.

VLC is what I like to call the convenience player, suited for uninformed users and those who just don't care enough and simply want to play videos, akin to people who use iTunes to listen to music.

Using an integrated codec pack, like what's found on self contained players, is very constraining, while external codecs allow the flexibility of choice and quality per user's preference. But then again, not everyone is familiar with proper codec installation and maintenance, for which self contained players like VLC are a safer option.

Codecs are what I like to call the S&M player. Great for people who enjoy pain.

[tribaljet]

Codecs are what I like to call the S&M player. Great for people who enjoy pain.

Keep using your limited and low quality integrated codec system. After all, it's easy to use

[Biscuit]

That's because you are using MPC instead of MPC-HC (which has many codecs built-in).

Ahhh thats quite interesting. So that has the essentials built in but can also use external ones if you need them?

To comment on VLC 2.0, i tried it last night and its pretty good, seems to use less resources than version 1. Haven't tried 1080p on my net book yet though.... need to do that.

[tribaljet]

Ahhh thats quite interesting. So that has the essentials built in but can also use external ones if you need them?

Regular MPC already had a few, but was relatively limited, as it's made to work with external codecs in order to function optimally. MPC-HC did change several things, both from more advanced output renderers and by including more transform filters.

Both MPC and MPC-HC can load external ones when needed.

[abaxas]

Keep using your limited and low quality integrated codec system. After all, it's easy to use

No point having media that no-one but you can play.

[tribaljet]

No point having media that no-one but you can play.

Who said anything about esoteric formats? I'm merely saying that through selective codec installation, you can obtain the highest performance and image quality on every single format, common and esoteric alike.

But like I said previously, codec installation isn't for the faint of heart, which is where VLC's plug and play ease of use enters.

[abaxas]

Who said anything about esoteric formats? I'm merely saying that through selective codec installation, you can obtain the highest performance and image quality on every single format, common and esoteric alike.

But like I said previously, codec installation isn't for the faint of heart, which is where VLC's plug and play ease of use enters.

Never confuse quality with post processing.

[tribaljet]

Never confuse quality with post processing.

Ah, so now every codec is the same, image quality wise.

Ok, we're done here.

[abaxas]

Ah, so now every codec is the same, image quality wise.

Ok, we're done here.

Only because that statement make no sense.

Please troll elsewhere.

[tribaljet]

Only because that statement make no sense.

Please troll elsewhere.

It's not my fault you don't know how codecs work. Perhaps if I didn't work professionally with multimedia, I'd be in the same situation as yourself, and confuse codecs with post processing.

[Biscuit]

It's not my fault you don't know how codecs work. Perhaps if I didn't work professionally with multimedia, I'd be in the same situation as yourself, and confuse codecs with post processing.

You cant get anything extra out of a decode process without post processing. Its either decoded correctly or incorrectly. Encoding on the other hand, there many different methods and algorithms etc. Is this where you guys are getting mixed up?

[abaxas]

You cant get anything extra out of a decode process without post processing. Its either decoded correctly or incorrectly. Encoding on the other hand, there many different methods and algorithms etc. Is this where you guys are getting mixed up?

Exactly, playback (which is what we were talking about) quality is often confused for post processing.

[aidanjt]

Codecs are what I like to call the S&M player. Great for people who enjoy pain.

Modular codecs, also otherwise known as sane engineering principles, are what makes editors, players, etc interchangeable. And if you want a simple to install full codec solution, look no further than the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack.

[Biscuit]

Perhaps i should also add... im a broadcast engineer and i regularly work closely with companies like Ericsson, Harris and Harmonic who actually design the transmission coders so i know in pretty good detail how codecs work.

Modular codecs, also otherwise known as sane engineering principles, are what makes editors, players, etc interchangeable. And if you want a simple to install full codec solution, look no further than the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack.

[tribaljet]

I'm so sorry guys, I had it all mixed up. Too little sleep sometimes leads to this

abaxas, my bad, you're right.

But on the whole post processing note, different decoders do have different post processing features, as in higher quality post processing, not different post processing features.

But basically, ease of use and streaming is where VLC has the upper hand. Codec packs can be solution, but some care is required to install them, as there is often quite a lot of clutter on those.