QOTW: Intel Core i7-8700K or AMD Ryzen 7 1800X?

[Xlucine]

Basically Intel is trying to put people off buying the higher end Ryzen CPUs though by dangling the Core i7 8700K in front of people,and it shows you how worried they must have been,to essentially crater sales of the Core i7 7700k an Z270 which are under a year old.

I think it's a terrible misstep. They launch these CPU's, get the review sites to proclaim the 6 core chips as "the best gaming CPU's ever", and then don't provide any stock - so consumers get told by intel that a 6 core chip is needed for gaming, and the only 6-core chip available is from AMD. The 7th gen intel is still available, of course, but who'd want to buy that when the latest gen stuff is the first to meaningfully improve upon the 2500k?

The response to the launch from the red team has been illuminating too. While many ryzen chips got cheaper before the launch, the 1600X has gone back up in price so that now a 1600X system exactly matches the cost of a 8400 system - dunno if this is AMD or the e-tailers setting the price (and I only looked at scan), but it's an interesting coincidence.

[Corky34]

Low supply = Poor yields?

You wouldn't think so given its the same tech as the 2 previous generations.

I'd say the low supply is more to do with the bringing forward of what they had planned, Ryzen probably prompted them to bring a launch they had planned for next year forward by a few quarters, hence the low supply as they've not had time to build up stock, it's also why IMO they modified what is in essence a 2 series chipset, rumors suggest the Z370 is a stopgap measure and they plan to release a Z390 in the second half of 2018, they probably planned to release CL then also.

[LyntonB]

+1 for AM4 given promises to maintain platform until 2020+ whereas I think there is already noise that z370 might not support next gen. also there is dedicated x4 pcie nvme to cpu with AMD. Intel still seem to lump too much into the DMI link (although do offer more pcie lanes through this bottleneck)

[LyntonB]

Intel as I don't like 2nd Place.

ha ha not for 1440p gaming and especially modern DX12 games that are properly core optimised. Intel if you plan to play old games mainly

[LyntonB]

I'd be more tempted to get a 8700k for consistently high performance as a gamer.

only at 1080p gaming and DX11 (so old games). New games, DX12 and at 1440p the two are about the same so go AM4 so you know next gen supported and it's cheaper plus you get a cool free rgb fan if you're going for a build with looks and don't want to pay hundreds extra for a few effective more fps (as it becomes GPU limited at this res/api)

[ByteMyAscii]

Given the option, I would go with the 8700k due to my usage. My most played game, World of Warcraft is heavily single-threaded. And thus favouring Intel.