Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 50 per cent faster than GTX 1080

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

PS: dangel once you get the card,some user benchmarks will always be appreciated OFC.

We all like a good benchmark thread. Oo-er!

The other part of RTX, Deep Learning Super Sampling could, oddly enough, be a bigger game changer as when/if combined with upsampling it could allow a game to be rendered in a low resoulotion to maintain good framerates and upsampled to 4k or more without degrading the image quality.

This is the part I am more excited about than the raytracing TBH. Consoles do their own interpolation so people can run them on 4K screens,and its actually nice to see PCs attempt to do try and tackle the same issues.

[dangel]

I think you are underestimating how pissed off people got with mining jacking up card prices in the first place and it seemed pricing was starting to get back to RRP. Usually prices drop below launch RRP after two years,but they have not - for instance I got the best RX470/RX570 card for less in 2016 than an average one now with a stronger pound.

Now Turing is out people were expecting improvement in price/performance but now it's more increased pricing,which means the older GPUs won't get a price cut - its rather cunning from Nvidia as they did apparently overstock cards due to mining and now they can clear the Pascal stocks with minimal discounting and some stores like OcUK have said as much that prices won't drop anymore.

Now add that to the general anger with RAM pricing going up,and its starting to all generally grate on people,especially those who do need to upgrade,and are not on a massively flexible budget.

I don't think I spoke on the mining/gpu crisis but yes, why would I disagree? To follow on on what you're speaking of here I'd simply say nvidia are getting away with what they can (obviously) and if they can't (really what I was speaking of - the combination of high prices and poor performance) then they'll have to reconsider. The TIs apparently sold out though. Expensive hobby, and progressively so in recent times. I found the 1080 price hard work at the time since I needed (ok wanted) two of them.

AFAIK the RTX2080TI is apparently uses a cut down GPU meaning there is a space for a Titan XT. However,even if that doesn't happen,what happens in the next few generations?? If moving up the 80TI series to $1200 works,what happens during the GTX3080TI era?? Is that $1200 or even more?? Will the Titan XT2 cost $2000??

Another issue is people are a bit worried by Nvidia launching is biggest GPU of a new generation first,which has not happened since Fermi.

Hence,people are wondering whether the series will be relatively short lived.

I was more interested in the perception - by calling it a 2080ti it's comparable with the 1080ti of course. By calling it a titan it *may* of been more tolerable in pricing. Nothing more.
I expect the ti to be superseded and I wouldn't expect that to take 12 months, nor would I disagree with your projections on pricing.

I think we're having two different conversations tbh - I'm not contradicting you.

PS: dangel once you get the card,some user benchmarks will always be appreciated OFC.

We all like a good benchmark thread. Oo-er!

LOL. Sure, but I think we'll have loads by the 20th - some days before I do.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

LOL. Sure, but I think we'll have loads by the 20th - some days before I do.

Not on Hexus though I would imagine at least at launch - so it would be nice to some user impressions anyway!!

[dangel]

Not on Hexus though I would imagine at least at launch - so it would be nice to some user impressions anyway!!

...unless that impression is "ohhh ffs the 1080s were just as quick!"

As someone who doesn't really gamble I feel I'm making up for it now

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

...unless that impression is "ohhh ffs the 1080s were just as quick!"

As someone who doesn't really gamble I feel I'm making up for it now

Well its all feedback LOL.

Edit!!

Also I am intrigued to see if DX12 and Vulkan performance has also improved TBH,as JHH mentioned async compute and yes I did watch the whole presentation live.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Another thought I had - if the rumours of the GTX2060 being not an RTX card are true,would that mean a TU106 chip which is more geared towards more traditional gaming workloads might be closer to the RTX2070 in "legacy" games?? Would interesting if true!!

[Dave_07]

Well either way RTX range "seems" like it's going to be somewhat of a leap in terms of pure computational power if anything at least, I mean 50% overall increase seems nice lul.

But most average gamers probably not gonna buy at launch. I've bought into new tech a few times with SLI back in the day, then the fiasco that was the x99 platform, then gsync and so on, and so on - and every time it never bloody works at launch. Always glitchy and buggy, and stays that way until the platform matures a bit & proper driver support eventually rolls around. RTX will be no different sadly
But hey, maybe by September next year, it might be something that an average joe might consider. God knows my 980's are hurting to keep up with today's titles, and CP2077 seems like it's gonna need some pretty hefty supercomputer faffory to even run lol.

[Biscuit]

I don't know if you've watched JayzTwoCents' video, but he gives a pretty good synopsis of the situation.

- Don't preorder (in fact, never preorder anything ever)
- Wait for results
- Don't preorder
- This is new tech that has yet to mature
- Don't preorder

He has released a video defending the pricing structure though. He states that the 2080ti is the new Titan, and the Titan series is no longer marketed towards gamers, so will be totally separate. I gues that also means everything has stepped up one level to fill the gap but... I don't know if im buying this explanation.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

He has released a video defending the pricing structure though. He states that the 2080ti is the new Titan, and the Titan series is no longer marketed towards gamers, so will be totally separate. I gues that also means everything has stepped up one level to fill the gap but... I don't know if im buying this explanation.

Did he get told off?

[LSG501]

How much difference it will actually make is another matter entirely though, over the years developers have learn't some really clever techniques that makes scenes more believable so the differences between a realtime ray traced scene and a normal one may not, in the end, make much difference unless you go looking for it.

I do a fair bit of 3D rendering for my work and already use 'raytraced' lighting (slightly different implementations) in most imagery and in all honesty an average person wouldn't likely be able to tell the difference between a high quality non raytraced setup and a raytraced setup, it's even less necessary when the game isn't being rendered with photo-realistic materals too.

While I can see a use for raytracing in high end cards such as the quadro (and in fact am thankful for it trickling down to geforce assuming it doesn't get nerfed) for real time visualisation etc I'm not sure it's a necessity for games.

[Biscuit]

Did he get told off?

Not that I have seen.

There is a lot of youtubers defending/explaining the situation away. I guess they dont want to risk the chance of not getting freebies so they cant really be trusted until there is loads of benchmarks in the wild.

Yet J2C said he will always buy AMD card to ensure he can be impartial...

I like his content and he seems liek a nice guy, but I think he actually doesnt even see his own bias at all.

[outwar6010]

He has released a video defending the pricing structure though. He states that the 2080ti is the new Titan, and the Titan series is no longer marketed towards gamers, so will be totally separate. I gues that also means everything has stepped up one level to fill the gap but... I don't know if im buying this explanation.

Defending the absurd pricing of the rtx lineup seems hypocritical, considering his stance on the, cheap as chips by comparison vega line up....

https://twitter.com/JayzTwoCents/sta...21072960512000

[Rubarb]

it's just too expensive, end of.

I wouldn't ever spend over £300 on a gpu, that limits me to second gen or even 3rd gen as it is now.

I'm currently using a 960 4gb msi , i7 2600 that cost me about £350 at the most.

[DanceswithUnix]

Been a bit distracted over this launch, but are these cards 12nm? If they are 7nm with awful chip availability then it makes some sense to price them out of the market. If they are 12nm, then next year they could look pretty slow when 7nm parts come out.

[Biscuit]

Been a bit distracted over this launch, but are these cards 12nm? If they are 7nm with awful chip availability then it makes some sense to price them out of the market. If they are 12nm, then next year they could look pretty slow when 7nm parts come out.

12nm

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I wonder how many tests will now have HDR monitors?