Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 50 per cent faster than GTX 1080

[DanceswithUnix]

.. and some stores like OcUK have said as much that prices won't drop anymore.

I notice ocuk have a Vega 56 on pre order for £400 so AMD prices are still edging down slowly, that might keep some pressure up.

[Biscuit]

I notice ocuk have a Vega 56 on pre order for £400 so AMD prices are still edging down slowly, that might keep some pressure up.

There were 64s availabe @ £440 on amazon recently

[aidanjt]

Jim at AdoredTV has a go at nVidia's 50% faster claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_x1JGG4JC8

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Jim at AdoredTV has a go at nVidia's 50% faster claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_x1JGG4JC8

Well like me he spotted the HDR usage and how Pascal does drop performance,except unlike me he seems to have added loads more articles which show something similar - it seems its not a driver issue,like I expected,but a bandwidth one,and the GTX1080 does also suffer somewhat at 4K.

TBH,it is a shame AMD does not have anything really to release now,otherwise they might have a chance due to the high pricing of Turing.

[aidanjt]

TBH,it is a shame AMD does not have anything really to release now,otherwise they might have a chance due to the high pricing of Turing.

Honestly, I'm half considering just buying a Vega card at this point anyway, just on principle. The only reason I haven't already is because I'm not sure where Navi 10 and 20 exactly stands where relative performance will be or release date with all the conflicting rumours, and AMD has been a bit tight lipped about it. If it's 6 months away I don't mind waiting, but if it's a year+ my 970 is already a bit stale at this point, partially thanks to my new 1440p monitor.

[DanceswithUnix]

TBH,it is a shame AMD does not have anything really to release now,otherwise they might have a chance due to the high pricing of Turing.

Agreed, and worse I think the AI support in 7nm Vega that makes it a rubbish gaming card is a dead end. They should have launched a separate tensor processor instead.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Honestly, I'm half considering just buying a Vega card at this point anyway, just on principle. The only reason I haven't already is because I'm not sure where Navi 10 and 20 exactly stands where relative performance will be or release date with all the conflicting rumours, and AMD has been a bit tight lipped about it. If it's 6 months away I don't mind waiting, but if it's a year+ my 970 is already a bit stale at this point, partially thanks to my new 1440p monitor.

Apparently I heard some of the touted features which are not working in Vega now are broken(or won't be supported),so its hard to say,but at least with FP16 Vega probably will be longer lived than Pascal IMHO.

Agreed, and worse I think the AI support in 7nm Vega that makes it a rubbish gaming card is a dead end. They should have launched a separate tensor processor instead.

It won't be,but it means AMD will have good experience on both GF and TSMC 7NM,so hopefully that might make 7NM Navi a design they can churn out with less issues,unlike Polaris apparently had.

[Biscuit]

Apparently I heard some of the touted features which are not working in Vega now are broken(or won't be supported),so its hard to say,but at least with FP16 Vega probably will be longer lived than Pascal IMHO.

Which features?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Which features?

Look at their bumpf,and all those features which were have not been used yet,are unlikely to be supported. It was on a bulletin board someone I knew showed me but can't find the link. The main advantage Vega will have over Pascal is proper async compute and JHH kept mentioning it(meaning Nvidia will use it) and FP16 compute(which Turing has).

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Just wow:

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/08...ring_hardware/

Nvidia has allegedly taken a hard stance against a sponsored streamer and influencer from India for expressing his opinion about preordering hardware. PC Peasants co-hosts Rohin Bhaumik and Archishman "fett" Pradhan were conducting a podcast about the unveiling of the new Nvidia RTX lineup when the subject of preordering came up at the 5 minute and 7 minute mark in the video below. Both discussed getting burned in the past by preordering The Division based on a trade show trailer. Then they gave many reasons why they were against preordering hardware without real world benchmarks by reviewers.
According to Rohin Bhaumik this was considered "improper conduct" and his entire gaming rig he had received as an Nvidia sponsorship had to be returned. When asked why he lost his LG, HyperX and Zotac sponsorships, he responded, "It was a package deal man."

[aidanjt]

Yup, nVidia seems super desperate to peddle as many pre-orders before launch as possible. As if any more evidence of that were needed.

[kalniel]

I guess that's the problem with being sponsored - you have to say what you're paid to say. Podcasts/Vlogs etc. should be much more transparent about sponsorship and conflicts of interest.

[cptwhite_uk]

Jim at AdoredTV has a go at nVidia's 50% faster claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_x1JGG4JC8

God bless Jim, he does some stellar investigative work. All makes sense now, so with driver optimisations they might have held back, raw figures and the explanation of how of how they simulated + 50% in optimum conditions between the 1080 and 2080 it would seem in reality we're likely to see real world improvements of around 25%-35% generation on generation for the same 'level' of card in SDR @ 1440p, if I'm understanding it correctly. Guess we just need to wait for the actual numbers to come in now.

[Iota]

Yup, nVidia seems super desperate to peddle as many pre-orders before launch as possible. As if any more evidence of that were needed.

Which makes me question why.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

WTF:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nv...ney,37689.html

Just Buy It: Why Nvidia RTX GPUs Are Worth the Money

Life is short. How many months or years do you want to wait to enjoy a new experience? You can sit around twiddling your thumbs and hoping that an RTX 2080 gets cheaper, or you can enter the world of ray-tracing and high-speed, 4K gaming today and never look back. When you die and your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?

This is the same crap Rollo said years ago.

Edit!!

Please tell me he is being sarcastic??

[Biscuit]

WTF:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nv...ney,37689.html





This is the same crap Rollo said years ago.

Edit!!

Please tell me he is being sarcastic??

i guess what I said about reviewers also counts for review sites. Keep sipping that cool aid or no more freebies.