Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 pictured: triple slot, 310mm long

[3dcandy]

But can it run Microsoft Flight Sim 2020?

mwahahahahahahaha

[Phage]

I seriously don't understand the manfacture of any item that will lock out a large proportion of their target market. Even in a halo product. It will require an upgrade or more than just the GPU.
A new connector and 600w means that you may need a whole new PSU, as well as cables.

[kalniel]

I seriously don't understand the manfacture of any item that will lock out a large proportion of their target market. Even in a halo product. It will require an upgrade or more than just the GPU.
A new connector and 600w means that you may need a whole new PSU, as well as cables.

They'll provide adaptors so you can have the bulk of the connection gubbins (3-4 8 pin connectors??) away from the GPU, and modular suppliers like seasonic will provide adaptors to go direct to the PSU. I would be surprised if the GPU is 600W, more likely it's less, just more than they got out of the old connectors.

[3dcandy]

I seriously don't understand the manfacture of any item that will lock out a large proportion of their target market. Even in a halo product. It will require an upgrade or more than just the GPU.
A new connector and 600w means that you may need a whole new PSU, as well as cables.

Because NV also believe that people will buy it anyhoo and just upgrade. Re: my comment about Flight Sim 2020 my buddies in the US are already saying it has spawned a huge round of upgrades ready for either 30xx NV or big navi cards. You can buy an adapter easily enough as well. Also rumours that the 3090 is effectively a dual gpu card which is why the big jump from $800 to $1400 from 3080 to 3090. 3090 as mentioned above is likely this gens Titan to add in as well which means that power draw, price and performance are all kinda secondary to the halo effect and how many cards you can buy

[LSG501]

They'll provide adaptors so you can have the bulk of the connection gubbins (3-4 8 pin connectors??) away from the GPU, and modular suppliers like seasonic will provide adaptors to go direct to the PSU. I would be surprised if the GPU is 600W, more likely it's less, just more than they got out of the old connectors.

If they're going to supply adapters to fit the old connectors (It looks like they're 2x8pin gpu cables to 1x12pin) then the old cables were likely able to supply the power needed (for this generation, unless they specify not to use the split cables we have now).

As I said earlier it's likely about proprietary hardware. There is of course potentially marketing (just one cable to power it...) benefits or it could be they can't fit the old sockets into the cooling setup etc...

[Ttaskmaster]

but I just never saw/heard their name used for that purpose here in the UK, so I'm not sure if it's just me or it's varied by areas.

Genericisation is more of an American thing, anyway.

[iworrall]

The existing 6 & 8 pin connectors are Molex "Mini Fit Jr", capable of 13A per pin on a 4.2mm pitch.
The new 12 pin connector seems to be Molex "Micro Fit +", capable of 12.5A per pin on a 3.0mm pitch.

TL;DR - The new connector is only 70% the size of the equivalent 12-pin Mini Fit Jr.

Therefore, I think the main reason for the change is to reduce PCB footprint, not "proprietary hardware".

[3dcandy]

The existing 6 & 8 pin connectors are Molex "Mini Fit Jr", capable of 13A per pin on a 4.2mm pitch.
The new 12 pin connector seems to be Molex "Micro Fit +", capable of 12.5A per pin on a 3.0mm pitch.

TL;DR - The new connector is only 70% the size of the equivalent 12-pin Mini Fit Jr.

Therefore, I think the main reason for the change is to reduce PCB footprint, not "proprietary hardware".

I was thinking the same as it appears from other sources that even at it's bigger size cooling (memory not gpu according to some) is a real issue. Less pcb space equals more available space for cooling.

[philehidiot]

Not as long as the largest expansion card I've owned, which was a Soundblaster AWE32 at 356mm. My Vega64 is 316mm long. I have a very large case and that just fits.

It must be said that, if this card is the Titan model, the size of the card really doesn't matter as the market it is being aimed at is so niche.

Interestingly, if this is the Titan part of the range, the pattern is usually that they don't call it the "Titan" if the card isn't as good as they'd like as they don't want to sully the Titan brand name. Sensible move, but contrary to this is that I've heard this series isn't going to be bad at all.

We shall see.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Now they are hyping the cooler??

[kalniel]

Hmm "cool n quiet". Reminds me of a certain feature trademark.. who was that for I don't remember...

[Noxious89123]

I may be wrong here, but the article keeps referring to "8 pin Molex". Shouldn't that be "8 pin PCI-E", as molex, by definition, is the old 4 pin stubby thing we all love or hate?

Whilst the common 4-pin connectors are generally referred to by the community as "Molex connectors", the term isn't really accurate enough.
You see, Molex are just the manufacturer of that connector, and they make loads of other types of connector too.

[Noxious89123]

I may be wrong here, but the article keeps referring to "8 pin Molex". Shouldn't that be "8 pin PCI-E", as molex, by definition, is the old 4 pin stubby thing we all love or hate?

To add to my other post;
It's worth noting that the "8-pin PCI-E" connector is more correctly called an "8-Pin Molex Mini-fit" connector.

"Molex connector is the vernacular term for a two-piece pin and socket interconnection. Pioneered by Molex Connector Company, the two-piece design became an early electronic standard. Molex developed and patented the first examples of this connector style in the late 1950s and early 1960s.[1][2] First used in home appliances, other industries soon began designing it into their products from automobiles to vending machines to mini-computers."

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

First performance leak:
https://twitter.com/yuten0x/status/1300373469843120133

[Jonj1611]

Its going to be a silly price

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Its going to be a silly price

On this Indian online retailer its listed at nearly £1300:
https://www.digit.in/pc-components/n...ce-210786.html