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I bet no one complains about the power consumption on this card. If it was an AMD card however - well that's a completely different story.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH (07-11-2013)
BTW,this is the link for those that are interested:Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=212
you kidding me? I complain, I complain!
only 5 fps faster than 290x really, Nvidia? and yet you charge us 150 more...
Props to nVidia for de-limiting the card and showing what their tech can really do when unleashed.
Props to AMD for producing a card that gives the above a great run for the money, especally for the money.
Bear in mind though that the '110 arch is now getting along in years and the AMD arch is brand new. Although the next architecture from nVidia isn't due for another year yet and is possibly going to be a die shrink with bugfixes rather than a whole new design.
Gotta also say, I'm not so much pro AMD as anti nVidia. Can't fault their tech (bad bumps aside) but then again, they helped to kill 3Dfx so a pox on them.
Props to nVidia for de-limiting the card and showing what their tech can really do when unleashed.
Props to AMD for producing a card that gives the above a great run for the money, especally for the money.
Bear in mind though that the '110 arch is now getting along in years and the AMD arch is brand new. Although the next architecture from nVidia isn't due for another year yet and is possibly going to be a die shrink with bugfixes rather than a whole new design.
Gotta also say, I'm not so much pro AMD as anti nVidia. Can't fault their tech (bad bumps aside) but then again, they helped to kill 3Dfx so a pox on them.
20nm wont be ready for 6months minimum - TSMC is still setting up the line.
Still pricy, classic Nvidia !
I meant the Titan after seeing this one.
Yikes, fast... perhaps the price is a little too high but then it really embarasses AMD's 290 cooler, 780 Ti using more power but maintains lower temperatures for less noise. If you don't want to risk warranties and a £450 GPU self-fitting an aftermarket cooler then there is an advantage in it being good out of the box...
As is so often the case when all the chips are down for me it's hard to pick a clear winner, nobody has the advantage in all areas.
LOL,it seems over on OcUK some people consider the GTX780TI is only slightly worse value for money than a R9 290.
What with a 77% premium for cheapest cards??
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 07-11-2013 at 07:29 PM.
I wont dispute the fact that Nvidia did bring a good kick of performance but the cost is once again too great. If I was ever to consider a new graphics card and in these price brackets (Most expensive card was £190... no more ever!) I would grab the 290x for the simple reason it has a terrible cooler and can go further than Nvidia while being cheaper, put it this way I can buy a full waterblock for the 290x and have a nice chunk of cash left over compared to buying the 780 TI so I could certainly make the R290x screen.
I dont think anyone can write off AMD simply because their chips runs hot and that is due to the cooler which will be fixed very easily by third parties, the chip has so much headroom to play with so third parties will certainly enjoy selling their normal flavour of cards with great cooling! Nvidia cards dont see as much benefit when moved. AMD also has a much smaller die so yields should be a lot better and in general cheaper to make so AMD must have a much higher profit margin than Nvidia so there is room left for them to undercut IF it was needed, in a way I would say SHAME on Nvidia for not pushing AMD further in pricing
The final thing to note is that there are a ton of games coming out on the frostbite 3.0 engine and that will support mantle along side this there are many large developer studios backing it and when you consider every single console game will in someway be using an equivilant to mantle it will be highly likely that Mantle support will appear on the PC version. I would be highly interested in Hexus doing some benches as soon as the december update for BF4 comes out with mantle support as I reckon there will be a massive change, we will see Nvidia get left behind in price and flat out performance.
Quite worried by that power usage though, people moaned hard about AMDs 290x using a lot of power but I suspect they will treat Nvidia differently and praise it lol.
I will like to see their tone when the non-reference R9 290 and R9 290X cards launch.
I bet it will be along the lines,of "too late AMD,you always behind Nvidia,blah,blah,blah!"
Like I said before JHH must love some of these people,as he gets his next Porsche. What Nvidia has done with Titan is to indoctrinate such gamers so much,they find it OK that instead of charging £450,Nvidia can charge £550 for the GTX780 and GTX780TI within a period of a few months and you have people ditching the former card for the latter. Its hilarious and just shows how gullible they are to marketing. At least people buying Titan for actual work,used the space in their head,not unlike some.
I think Nvidia have played a masterstroke TBH,with their marketing. They have managed to find idiots they can extract the money out of it. Actually in some way I kind of admire that they did such great market research in tarketing a gullible market. In some ways this is even worse than iSheep levels of indoctrination, when you have people willing to pay silly premiums for basically nothing and who want to do it religiously. Its a perfect audience for any company.
Sucks for the rest of us,but kudos to them I suppose.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 07-11-2013 at 07:49 PM.
Yup its been bad ever since they got Rollo onboard... the virus has been spreading!
When you have the fastest / best etc product you get to charge what you like. It's up to your competitor to offer a better bang for buck to tempt buyers away.
Particularly when you are production / supply limited.
You don't see Buggati worried that dacia produce a car with more bhp / £ now do you ... at the end of the day they still sell more cars than they can make.
LOL!
You mean like the £310 R9 290 under £420 pre-overclocked GTX780 GHZ Edition cards with non-reference coolers which are almost the same speed??
Which is funny that at multi-monitor resolutions,the R9 290 and R9 290X are not even that much different to a GTX780TI.
A GTX780TI a Buggati??
A hand built car with a limited production run against a mass market card assembled in China or Taiwan by minimal wage workers!
A car which will go up in value in 30 years time,against a card which will be worth nothing in 2 years time??
A Buggati or a hand made watch with a movement which takes a year to make are not mass market rubbish(which all the AMD and Nvidia cards are BTW), which will be in the recycling bin in a few years.
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 07-11-2013 at 08:55 PM.
I love Kyle. He holds no punches with the idiot marketeers.
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