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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    ... It seems AMD stopped making the 4GB model and the price has gone up a few more quid ...
    Oddly, ebuyer have just put a load of XFX 4GB cards up for pre-order @ £174: http://www.ebuyer.com/751840-xfx-amd...s-rx-480m4bfa6

    Wonder if they kept their 4GB cards back to assess the market...

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    ... It seems AMD stopped making the 4GB model and the price has gone up a few more quid ...
    Oddly, ebuyer have just put a load of XFX 4GB cards up for pre-order @ £174: http://www.ebuyer.com/751840-xfx-amd...s-rx-480m4bfa6

    Wonder if they kept their 4GB cards back to assess the market...
    So 8gb version in uk seems £50+ more for an extra 4gb of v ram,gouge?

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Not as good cards as I was hoping for but still good cards for a decent price. I'll wait for non reference cards to come out before I pull the trigger. The price drops on the GTX 970 are tempting but I'm not that inclined to buy a last generation nVidia card with nVidia's reputation and my own experiences in the (distant) past.

    Quote Originally Posted by kryton666 View Post
    So 8gb version in uk seems £50+ more for an extra 4gb of v ram,gouge?
    A lot depends on when the cards were bought by the retailers. The pound has plummeted so much in a week that it will be very hard to decide if there is any price gouging going on.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Oddly, ebuyer have just put a load of XFX 4GB cards up for pre-order @ £174: http://www.ebuyer.com/751840-xfx-amd...s-rx-480m4bfa6

    Wonder if they kept their 4GB cards back to assess the market...
    What do you think the price difference would be for a non-reference cooler 4GB model?
    Also, that fan seems to be the length of the pcb whereas the others are slightly longer...Do you think temps/noise could be affected?
    The more one seeks, the more one finds and so you realise there is a lot more to be found.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by Obie View Post
    What do you think the price difference would be for a non-reference cooler 4GB model?
    Also, that fan seems to be the length of the pcb whereas the others are slightly longer...Do you think temps/noise could be affected?
    It will be interesting how much more they boost - if they boost closer to 1400MHZ instead of closer to 1200MHZ,that could easily be another 15% extra performance there.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by bestdanman View Post
    And if the rumours are true that uk resellers have had their stock for a week or 2 then we havent actually seen the 10% drop in the pound reflected in the prices yet.
    OcUK already spoke about this - they physically had the stock but paid for it at current exchange rates, so I wouldn't worry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Otherhand View Post
    I'm sure a 6GB 980 has an advantage over a 4GB 980
    A 6GB 980 doesn't exist. Unless you're referring to the 980Ti but that's a completely different GPU.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobull View Post
    ... poor temps, ...
    Other stuff, OK, but why temps? Pascal also reaches about 80 so what's the problem? Don't forget power density increases from 28nm to 16/14 FinFETs so temperature increases for a given power and cooling solution are completely expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    Can someone explain to me how Nvidias 1070 with 1920 cores beats out the RX480 with 2350 cores?, I cant imagine the clock speed makes up that much performance?
    As kalniel says, the 'cores' are completely different. Have a read through some architecture deep dives of GCN and Pascal if you're interested in what the differences are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obie View Post
    Also, that fan seems to be the length of the pcb whereas the others are slightly longer...
    Looks the same to me? All reference cards are the same regardless of what company sticks them in a box.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Yeah you're right, the one picture from the side I looked at made it seem like the length of the pcb
    The more one seeks, the more one finds and so you realise there is a lot more to be found.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by kryton666 View Post
    So 8gb version in uk seems £50+ more for an extra 4gb of v ram,gouge?
    The 8GB cards are normally 8GHz ram, the 4GB cards are 7GHz ram so it isn't just the size that changed.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)



    Hmm,the aftermarket cards might be a reasonable amount faster I suspect.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    I hope the aftermarket cards do find more speed. Fun with numbers time...



    So on a game that doesn't seem that brilliant for the 480 (the 970 beats it), we see 63fps.

    Now, assuming the Vega can hit the same clocks, and has the predicted 4096 shaders I make that 63*4096/2304 = 112fps

    AMD would need to find another 12% to beat the 1080 with Vega on that bench. 1420MHz core would do it, perhaps with faster HBM2 memory.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I hope the aftermarket cards do find more speed. Fun with numbers time...



    So on a game that doesn't seem that brilliant for the 480 (the 970 beats it), we see 63fps.

    Now, assuming the Vega can hit the same clocks, and has the predicted 4096 shaders I make that 63*4096/2304 = 112fps

    AMD would need to find another 12% to beat the 1080 with Vega on that bench. 1420MHz core would do it, perhaps with faster HBM2 memory.
    But look at other reviews and Doom.. it beats the 970 here:



    here:



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    in fact I couldn't any other review than Hexus saying it was slower.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    in fact I couldn't any other review than Hexus saying it was slower.
    Interesting. I think it was Ars that said they had to manually turn their fan up to get full boost speed, perhaps there is some variation in silicon from one card to another, perhaps it is how overclocked the review system CPU is, but there is quite a bit of difference across those isn't there.

    The PC gamer result, scaling the 480 up to 4096 shaders comes in 4% slower than the 1080. Too lazy to try the rest

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    One thing though - the RX480 only has 32 ROPS and is a 4 ACE design.

    It also appears the card is tweaked GCN1.2 also. The card apparently is only running around 10% higher clockspeed than a R9 390 which has 10% higher clockspeed, double the memory bandwidth,double the ROPS and double the ACE units.

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Wonder if Hexus just got a poor sample that runs slightly hotter than average? I know Tarinder highlighted that the card was throttling for temps in a number of benchmarks...

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    I'm sure people are aware, but just to be sure, the 970 in the Hexus review is running at 1150 GPU and 1304 Mem, compared to stock 970 @ 1050 and 1178 (which I assume the other reviews are based on). I believe it's the highest pre-overclocked 970 you can buy and roughly performed 8-12% faster than a reference 970 in Hexus' review @ 1440p

    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...x-970-phoenix/

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    Re: AMD Radeon RX 480 (14nm Polaris)

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Wonder if Hexus just got a poor sample that runs slightly hotter than average? I know Tarinder highlighted that the card was throttling for temps in a number of benchmarks...
    Low power card?Putting overclocking back in the hands of the user?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oc7zXhzlzU
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