AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

[edmundhonda]

Edit: I only game 1080p 60fps, rx 580 8gb

If you're looking at a new CPU for games, you're already going to be GPU limited in any typical situation (and far worse at 1440p).

[Hasnain]

5800x really doesn't make sense at all. If you game just get the 5600x and if you need more cores for production work ect, the 5900x is just much better value for your money.

[lumireleon]

"majority of computer users use PiFast"

[Tarinder]

Hi Tarinder,

When there's a long list of chips on benchmarks would it be possible to put the reveiw chips in a different colour or font so you don;t have to scour down a list of similar looking models to find out where it sits. Sorry if this sounds pedantic but would really help.

Ta

Hi there,

We have tried it. It looks ungainly, but we'll have a tinker around with the graphs.

[LSG501]

Hi there,

We have tried it. It looks ungainly, but we'll have a tinker around with the graphs.

Try reducing the opacity of the colours, something like 75-80% for the non review chips, so they have the same colours but are less prominent. It should stop it from being 'ungainly' but still allow you to see the review items at a glance. It's an effect that is used quite commonly in graphic design and should work quite ell on here because your primary background colour is white.

[Duckboy79]

If you're looking at a new CPU for games, you're already going to be GPU limited in any typical situation (and far worse at 1440p).

Yeah I know, but new monitor (freesync) then get a new GC (when you can actually buy them!? at RRP or less!?) then update the rest.

[tygrus]

The AMD prices will be 50 to 100 USD cheaper before Intel's next gen desktop parts arrive in late March 2021. We won't need to wait for Intel to deliver for next upgrade if we can use AMD before then. Intel will also offer large discounts/incentives/marketing$/bribery for distributors/OEM's/retailers to use more Intel & less of the little guy.

[EasterEEL]

Considering an AMD 5600x & MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk @ £510 versus an Intel 10600k & MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk @ £410.MSI MAG Z490 Performance difference doesn't justify 20% price hike IMHO. 5600X needs to drop in price by about 20% at least (when it actually comes into stock).

[3dcandy]

Considering an AMD 5600x & MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk @ £510 versus an Intel 10600k & MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk @ £410.MSI MAG Z490 Performance difference doesn't justify 20% price hike IMHO. 5600X needs to drop in price by about 20% at least (when it actually comes into stock).

PCI Gen4 is probably worth the 20% for me in the long run though....

[DanceswithUnix]

Considering an AMD 5600x & MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk @ £510 versus an Intel 10600k & MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk @ £410.MSI MAG Z490 Performance difference doesn't justify 20% price hike IMHO. 5600X needs to drop in price by about 20% at least (when it actually comes into stock).

But the gaming performance of the 5600X is closer to the 10900K, and for most people gaming is the only compute heavy thing they will do.

[JamesP91]

Supply issues don't seem to be as acute with the 5600X which is the CPU I'm intending to buy, so I'm hoping it'll be in stock with the usual retailers soon. First time doing an AMD build, or using an AMD processor as my home computer so hoping I'm not making a big mistake.

Hoping to pair it with a 6800XT when they are released, but no doubt will run into the stock issues so will initially carry on with my GTX 960. Is the 5600X a good pairing for the 6800XT or do I need a better CPU? Going to be mostly using it for gaming, mostly 4K and single player with no streaming etc, games such as Assassins Creed as well as Crusader Kings and its ilk.

[Iota]

But the gaming performance of the 5600X is closer to the 10900K, and for most people gaming is the only compute heavy thing they will do.

Probably this generation, the gaming performance comparison would be the 10850K vs the 5600X, which costs more (£465 with cooler, vs £280). Considering comparable X570 motherboards cost less than the Z490 boards (glancing at Gigabyte Gaming X as a quick comparison, without going into others), I'd say the 5600X is actually the better choice of this generations CPU in purely gaming credentials.

Once you start going up the stack with the 5800X/5900X/5950X the pricing starts going more in favour of Intel (no real notable gaming difference between the 5600X/5800X/5900X/5950X vs the 10850K in the majority of games benchmarked). The 5600X not only matches in most scenarios, but it costs ~£180 less (40%). If you're only gaming, then it would make more sense to put that £180 towards a better GPU.

Once you start hitting the price point of the 5800X and upwards Intel offers two choices currently, the more expensive 10850K (£465 with cooler) + Z490 platform, or the considerably slower 10600K (£285 with cooler) or even the previous generation 9900KF (£405 with cooler) + Z390 platform which is the cheapest between the Z390 (£130) /Z490 (£175) / X570 (£165) Gigabyte Gaming X motherboards.

So if I were considering a new CPU / Motherboard I'd look at it like this personally, the lesser performing 10600K would lose out to the £20 more 5600X, the 5800X and the 10850K would lose out to the previous generation 9900KF (both priced too high for the minimal performance gain in games, that £85 is better spent elsewhere in a system). I wouldn't even consider the 5900X/5950X/10900K for their terrible pricing compared to the other choices available.

1. 10600K (£460)
2. 5600X (£480)
3. 9900KF (£535)
4. 5800X (£620)
5. 10850K (£640)

Edit: assumes a £35 air cooler for the CPU provided without one.

[LSG501]

Once you start going up the stack with the 5800X/5900X/5950X the pricing starts going more in favour of Intel (no real notable gaming difference between the 5600X/5800X/5900X/5950X vs the 10850K in the majority of games benchmarked). The 5600X not only matches in most scenarios, but it costs ~£180 less (40%). If you're only gaming, then it would make more sense to put that £180 towards a better GPU.

Once you start hitting the price point of the 5800X and upwards Intel offers two choices currently, the more expensive 10850K (£465 with cooler) + Z490 platform, or the considerably slower 10600K (£285 with cooler) or even the previous generation 9900KF (£405 with cooler) + Z390 platform which is the cheapest between the Z390 (£130) /Z490 (£175) / X570 (£165) Gigabyte Gaming X motherboards.

So if I were considering a new CPU / Motherboard I'd look at it like this personally, the lesser performing 10600K would lose out to the £20 more 5600X, the 5800X and the 10850K would lose out to the previous generation 9900KF (both priced too high for the minimal performance gain in games, that £85 is better spent elsewhere in a system). I wouldn't even consider the 5900X/5950X/10900K for their terrible pricing compared to the other choices available.

Unless of course you also want to stream your gaming as well, those extra cores etc could make a difference etc, although obviously cost more. While I'd agree that the 5950x is more aimed at semi pro video editing, 3D etc than just gaming, and if that's all you're after then you should go cheaper, there are other benefits to the extra cores too.. and streaming seems to have become quite popular for some reason, personally I'd rather play the game than watch someone playing it lol.

[Iota]

and streaming seems to have become quite popular for some reason, personally I'd rather play the game than watch someone playing it lol.

True, I also agree with the part about preferring to play the game than watch someone playing it. Although sometimes those Youtube guides come in handy.

[JamesP91]

You know when you're getting old when you can't understand why people like to do stuff like watching people play video games instead of actually playing it themselves. Do any games actually use more than six cores these days?

[3dcandy]

True, I also agree with the part about preferring to play the game than watch someone playing it. Although sometimes those Youtube guides come in handy.

I livestream gigs.... and more cores is deffo handy (OBS is a bit of a hog when trying to record the streams and erm stream them)
Nice fast boot nvme ssd makes more of a difference though