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    AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Mainstream Ryzen 5000 Series takes centre stage.
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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    I don't blame them for the pricing, if they're selling out they've been priced correctly. Those of us looking for better bang per buck will likely have to wait for 5800 / 5700 and 5600 non-X skews, likely 1st quarter next year once they've built up enough substandard 5800X 5600X stock to fulfil the market for the lower bins parts. Lets' hope the 5600 comes in around £220-230 or thereabouts.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    skews
    SKUs.

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    likely 1st quarter next year once they've built up enough substandard 5800X 5600X stock to fulfil the market for the lower bins parts. Lets' hope the 5600 comes in around £220-230 or thereabouts.
    Sounds likely, but that makes it 25% more expensive than a 3600. Same uninspiring value proposition as the rest of the Zen3 range.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    while 5600X is faster than 10600K if every frame matters.
    Are we looking at the same graphs? At 1080p and qhd the 5600X is mixing it with the i9 chips, not the i5 ones.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Any chance of a few 5600X game benches with the stock cooler?

    I'm assuming from the article that all the CPUs here got blessed with the nice big Noctua, it would be interesting to know how much of a handicap the little box cooler is.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Are we looking at the same graphs? At 1080p and qhd the 5600X is mixing it with the i9 chips, not the i5 ones.
    Pretty sure that's only in specific workloads that don't take advantage of multithreading. 5600X cant even beat a 3700X in some multithreaded tasks, simply because of the lower thread count.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Are we looking at the same graphs? At 1080p and qhd the 5600X is mixing it with the i9 chips, not the i5 ones.
    Pretty sure that's only in specific workloads which don't use much if any multithreading such as games. A 5600X cant even beat a 3700X in some tests due to the lower thread count.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    how about adding a comparison of the ages for some games? 1600x v 2600x v 3600x v 5600x (and for x800x too), maybe even some VR game benchmarks or things needs for streaming?

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    You claim the 10600 is £40 cheaper?
    How, exactly, are you going to keep it cool?

    Possibly with a £40 cooler?

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    it would be interesting to know how much of a handicap the little box cooler is.
    Wraith Stealth is wimpy but the 5600X only hits ~76w under load [ref: Anandtech], and I doubt it'd get near that in games.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    I am amazed how some of AMD's 'lower' models match the top of the pop from Intel on most platforms, I mean is or have Intel done a NOKIA?

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    I wish that reviewers would start listing seconds per turn in Civ games. I mean who cares about FSP is civ?

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Well I was hoping to get a 3800x, but at that price and availability, I'll be looking at it in 6 months or so, no way am I going for a 6 core when I have a 4 core.

    I might just delid this 3770k and push it as far as I can (it has a mad temp range over the cores +/-10c) and buy a 27"-32" free sync monitor instead!

    Then a new system next summer......

    Edit: I only game 1080p 60fps, rx 580 8gb, so a new free sync 1440p 144hz monitor, then upgrade next years seems a better idea IMHO

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Hi Tarinder,

    When there's a long list of chips on benchmarks would it be possible to put the reveiw chips in a different colour or font so you don;t have to scour down a list of similar looking models to find out where it sits. Sorry if this sounds pedantic but would really help.

    Ta

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    As a drop in upgrade, I'm glad I opted for the i9 9900KF, which for a previous generation is fairly on par with the Ryzen 7 5800X in gaming at anything above 1080p. Considering it's £50 cheaper, I really do think AMD have priced the 5xxx series a touch too high if someone wants to build base system (CPU / Mobo / RAM). If they had price parity, that would be far more compelling to opt for the AMD system.

    Unless of course you're creating content and need the extra performance in rendering (in which case, why are you not using the GPU for that?).

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    I wish that reviewers would start listing seconds per turn in Civ games. I mean who cares about FSP is civ?
    Like on page 5 at the bottom?

    https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/1...-5600x/?page=5

    The 5600X doesn't quite beat the 10900K

    I guess if you are running the AI benchmark you might as well measure the FPS at the same time.

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