Tap Water Alternatives ..?

[peterb]

Yup, did that while ago.. as you say its not just water

My best advice though , would be to go to an ibogaine center, as it takes years to really cleanse that stuff out.

In the meantime I've added some boron ( brillant stuff )

One of the first noticeable effects of large-dose ibogaine ingestion is ataxia, a difficulty in coordinating muscle motion which makes standing and walking difficult without assistance. Xerostomia (dry mouth), nausea, and vomiting may follow. These symptoms may be long in duration, ranging from 4 to 24 hours in some cases. Ibogaine is sometimes administered by enema to help the subject avoid vomiting up the dose. Psychiatric medications are strongly contraindicated in ibogaine therapy due to adverse interactions. Some studies also suggest the possibility of adverse interaction with heart conditions. In one study of canine subjects, ibogaine was observed to increase sinus arrhythmia (the normal change in heart rate during respiration).[24] It was proposed that there is a risk of QT-interval prolongation following ibogaine administration.[25] This risk was further demonstrated by a case reported in the New England Journal of Medicine documenting prolonged QT interval and ventricular tachycardia after initial use.[26]

Fatalities following ibogaine ingestion are documented in the medical literature.[27] Lethal respiratory and cardiac effects are associated with use.[28] Also, because ibogaine is one of the many drugs that are partly metabolized by the cytochrome P450 complex, caution must be exercised to avoid foods or drugs that inhibit CP450, in particular foodstuffs containing bergamottin or bergamot oil, common ones being grapefruit juice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine

I think I'd stick to tapwater.

Interesting the reaction with grapefruit juice (which is well known for interacting with other pharmacologically active drugs) I wonder if melon juice has the same effect?

[Kai]

One of the first noticeable effects of large-dose ibogaine ingestion is ataxia, a difficulty in coordinating muscle motion which makes standing and walking difficult without assistance. Xerostomia (dry mouth), nausea, and vomiting may follow. These symptoms may be long in duration, ranging from 4 to 24 hours in some cases.

Nothing the average binge drinking brit cant handle .

No, cant find that flavour you mentioned here sorry... it looks you've come up with that one yourself..

[ConnorLowe]

Looks like combining a few of the previous posts together may be the best solution?

Boil the water to rid it of any unneeded bacteria, then use a water filter?

[Kai]

Looks like combining a few of the previous posts together may be the best solution?

Boil the water to rid it of any unneeded bacteria, then use a water filter?

Regular filter doesn't work for fluoride - it wont remove it , and boiling it will actually make it worse.

A Steam distiller seems to be a better alternative.

heres some more on Fluoride from a pretty generic source. ( for the debunkers out there )

[peterb]

Nothing the average binge drinking brit cant handle .

No, cant find that flavour you mentioned here sorry... it looks you've come up with that one yourself..

Ah well, melonaid isn't to everyone's taste...

[Kai]

Ah well, melonaid isn't to everyone's taste...

With mango perhaps , but grapefruit ?

It would definitely be too bitter for me

[watercooled]

Looks like combining a few of the previous posts together may be the best solution?

Boil the water to rid it of any unneeded bacteria, then use a water filter?

UK water is chlorinated, no harmful bacteria should remain in it once it reaches your tap. Some countries/places use ozone, which is a powerful antimicrobial, but doesn't remain in the water so bacteria can potentially find their way into the supply between the pumping station and the tap.

[Kai]

I quite like the look of these Berkeys esp on the pennies too as its non - electric

it has fluoride filters too , but I'm not sure if it will work , I think reverse osmosis / steam would probably be safer.

here's some more worrying facts on chlorine and its little known friend .

[watercooled]

That won't remove fluoride ions, you'd need a deioniser to do that - the one you linked looks like a mechanical filter. If it claims to leave 'beneficial minerals', it probably won't remove ions.

[Kai]

That won't remove fluoride ions, you'd need a deioniser to do that - the one you linked looks like a mechanical filter. If it claims to leave 'beneficial materials', it probably won't remove ions either.

agreed..

[watercooled]

Back to your original question, anything capable of removing fluoride ions from water will likely leave you with purified water, i.e. removing other minerals.

[Butcher]

Back to your original question, anything capable of removing fluoride ions from water will likely leave you with purified water, i.e. removing other minerals.

Since pretty much all minerals in water are in ionic form, yes, anything that removes fluoride ons will also remove all other mineral ions.

I think worrying about fluoride is a waste of time, there are much better things to be concerned about. Also you might live in an area without water fluoridation - only about 10% of the water supplies in the UK have it.

Here's a map of fluoride levels in the UK: http://dwi.defra.gov.uk/consumers/ad...luoridemap.pdf

Also fluoride definitely helps reduce dental cavities, I certainly wouldn't recommend using a non-fluoridated toothpaste regardless of your thoughts on water fluoridation.

[watercooled]

Here's a map of fluoride levels in the UK: http://dwi.defra.gov.uk/consumers/ad...luoridemap.pdf

Interesting map that, I thought fluoridation was far more common! Oh well, unless you live in one of the shaded parts you don't have much to worry about!

[peterb]

Back to your original question, anything capable of removing fluoride ions from water will likely leave you with purified water, i.e. removing other minerals.

Specific ion exchange resins would remove fluoride ions preferentially.. Whether they are available commercially is another matter.

[watercooled]

Yeah I could've worded that better in hindsight, I just meant I don't think you're likely to find an off-the-shelf solution for it, although I could be wrong, especially if the demand is there. Even if available, the cost for everyday use would likely be unpalatable though.

[Kai]

Interesting map that, I thought fluoridation was far more common! Oh well, unless you live in one of the shaded parts you don't have much to worry about!

That's just England and Wales though, Im up in Scotland .