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    8gig the way to go?

    I have 4gig DDR3 in my PC at the moment and was wondering if i bought another 4gig strip would it help things along more with Lightroom etc?

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by cam1986 View Post
    I have 4gig DDR3 in my PC at the moment and was wondering if i bought another 4gig strip would it help things along more with Lightroom etc?
    Unlikely - Lightroom is pretty efficient because it's not got the capacity for layering so you can't build up the gianormous temp sizes that you can in GIMP or Photoshop etc. But if you're dealing with very large files then maybe.

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Yep, I used to have 4GB and since the move to 8GB, there's no going back.. Lightroom open and then editing in PS at the same time... very nice

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    As the current price of RAM is so low it seems worth while to upgrade.
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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Ok, so an extrs 4gig stick it is then. Thanks

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    It wouldn't cost that much more to get 2 x 4GB. Ram prices are great at the moment. DDR400 used to cost a fortune!

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    The OP should also consider the speed of their disc setup. In many cases this is more of a limiting factor IMHO.

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The OP should also consider the speed of their disc setup. In many cases this is more of a limiting factor IMHO.
    Disc setup? Hard drive? If so, i have a 7200rpm hard drive and have partitioned it so that the OS is on the first part. I think an extra 4gig would help things more.

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    I dropped 8GB in my laptop soon after I bought it (got the 2GB version because it was cheaper for me to buy more RAM myself).

    I sometimes run Windows 7 in a virtual machine; I give it 3 gigs of RAM. If I didn't do that, I'd probably be perfectly happy with 4GB.

    Still, my swapfile sits untouched and lonely, and I'm very happy.

    On the subject of disk, that would be next in my crosshairs, but this 320GB laptop drive is pretty nippy for something 2.5" wide and sitting on a spindle. If I do get tired of it though, you can guarantee I'll be dropping a Momentus in there.
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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    I'd second the opinions that memory is dirt cheap these days, so bunging in 8GB makes a lot of sense.

    The question I'm posing is whether it's worth going further than that - in my case to 16GB (blame good deals at Scan agan!). I'm a user of VirtualBox, so more memory makes sense for that, but the cheapskate in me doesn't want to spend the money just for VirtualBox.

    I don't have Photoshop, so from my researches so far the conclusion seems to be that the extra memory will be sitting there idle most of the time. I know a Linux OS could use the extra headroom, but I don't think Windows7 could.

    Anyone going to tell me that I'm wrong, and there is a benfit?

    There seems to be quite a few "big" memory kits out there, so there must be the demand.

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    i found that 4gb is used very quickly with starcraft 2 and a browser open (have to make sure browser closed...) so when i finally upgrade 8gb is the way for me, the fact 8gb costs the same as what 4gb of ddr2 would have cost when it was at its lowest makes it easy to justify
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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    What do you use virtualbox for? If you run lots of copies of the same OS, then nested paging should collapse lots of the memory together (but the space that frees up can only be used by the virtual machines; it's not given back to the OS).
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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    What do you use virtualbox for? If you run lots of copies of the same OS, then nested paging should collapse lots of the memory together (but the space that frees up can only be used by the virtual machines; it's not given back to the OS).
    Mixed development - tends to be differing OS's in the VM's rather than multiple copies of the same OS. Actually usual combos are Windows/Centos/RHEL4 or Solaris/Centos/RHEL5 - in which case I'm guessing that NP wouldn't help. Good thought though

    Problem I've got is that I now need to run an OEL+OracleDB instance, and that's 3-4GB on it's own. Which doesn't leave a heck of a lot for Windows7 and a client VM or three. Yes, I know - it's my own fault for not using Linux for this VM host (my main development VM host is Ubuntu and it works well - but it's an old box, so I can't get more than 4GB in that one, hence my looking around at the other potential VM hosts).

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Win 7 actually puts most of the free ram to use as cache, how effective that is however, is for someone else to discover.

    I'm a heavy ram user, I have chrome, firefox and opera open at the same time, usually with lots of tabs open in all of them. It's a nice feeling when you don't have to close other programs to open another because you'll run out of ram and it'll hit the pagefile.

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Seroiusly thinking of upping the ram to 8gig now. I am sure it will speed things up a bit. Especially as i have onboard GPU

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    Re: 8gig the way to go?

    Onboard GPU and 8GB RAM.

    8GB DDR3 is quite a lot. But to be honest I would get PC2-800 (1000mhz) DDR2 low density memory. Cheaper than DDR3, DDR3 isn't that good. Well not good enough to spend a huge amount of money anyway, because you then have to consider the CPU, motherboard etc etc.

    All too fussy I say, high end DDR2 I would say is fine for general or gaming use.
    Its the RAM on the GPU which needs to be considered for gaming.

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