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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    I'm using Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz 16GB (8GB x2), CL16 memory Kit. It's optimized for AMD processors and uses b-die.

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Should be getting my Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz (16GBX2) (BL2K16G36C16U4B) tomorrow. Having ordered them on Black Friday. The order has been 'in Process' for ages.
    Bought the Patriot Viper memory as a stop gap, which has been very good at c17.

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace007 View Post
    Should be getting my Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz (16GBX2) (BL2K16G36C16U4B) tomorrow. Having ordered them on Black Friday. The order has been 'in Process' for ages.
    Bought the Patriot Viper memory as a stop gap, which has been very good at c17.
    Let us know if you actually notice any real-world difference. You might get a few % in benchmarks, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't notice the difference!

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    I ordered the 32GB Crucial kit too,but it took so long I cancelled it and looked for a kit which might have it which was this:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/32...Black/RAM4470/

    It either has Micron E-die or Hynix CJR. I ended up with Hynix CJR! OTH,it ran fine at XMP. Initially when I tried to tighten timings I got issues,but realised for the Ryzen Ram Calculator to work properly I left the RAM at non-XMP settings in the BIOS. Then using those Thaiphoon Burner settings imported into the calculator,I used it to calculate tighter timings. Running at 3600MHZ 16-19-19-20-38 settings now.

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Yea the ballistix are great value for the performance i got 3200's running at 3600 xmp with no fault and had them at 3800 briefly.

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I ordered the 32GB Crucial kit too,but it took so long I cancelled it and looked for a kit which might have it which was this:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/32...Black/RAM4470/

    It either has Micron E-die or Hynix CJR. I ended up with Hynix CJR! OTH,it ran fine at XMP. Initially when I tried to tighten timings I got issues,but realised for the Ryzen Ram Calculator to work properly I left the RAM at non-XMP settings in the BIOS. Then using those Thaiphoon Burner settings imported into the calculator,I used it to calculate tighter timings. Running at 3600MHZ 16-19-19-20-38 settings now.
    I need your help on that calculator - my ram crashes immediately even at DOCP
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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    I need your help on that calculator - my ram crashes immediately even at DOCP
    What RAM is it??

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    been looking at a few kits but as with everything I'm struggling with that is available. what would be better out of a 32g 3200 CL 16 vs a 32g 3600 CL18, this would be to be paired with a 5600x. Think both kits were from g skill.

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelke View Post
    been looking at a few kits but as with everything I'm struggling with that is available. what would be better out of a 32g 3200 CL 16 vs a 32g 3600 CL18, this would be to be paired with a 5600x. Think both kits were from g skill.
    They both have the same initial latency (10ns) so if money not awful get the 3600. However if you can find lower latency 3600 then it will be an improvement

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    What RAM is it??
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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    That should be happening with that RAM and your high end motherboard! What I would do is run it at non-XMP settings so it will probably default to 2400MHZ IIRC. Then start Thaiphoon Burner and follow the procedure to import its readings into the Ryzen Ram Calculator. Make sure that the correct CPU,platform and die-type(B-die) are selected in the calculator. Then calculate 3600MHZ safe settings,and try the values in the BIOS and see how you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelke View Post
    been looking at a few kits but as with everything I'm struggling with that is available. what would be better out of a 32g 3200 CL 16 vs a 32g 3600 CL18, this would be to be paired with a 5600x. Think both kits were from g skill.
    Looking at video hardware unboxed did on ryzen 5000 memory (posted 10th Nov - can't link it as new!)

    I had been really hell bent on getting 2x 16gb 3600 cl16, but it looks like cl18 is hardly any different (although he doesn't actually have a cl16 dual rank setup there - so perhaps someone could let me know if i'm wrong?)

    I think if I were you, i'd get the 3600 cl18 - although you can see the margins are quite small

    CAT-THE-FIFTH - are there any 36gb kits that are guaranteed to be dual rank? It seems to be a bit of a lottery and don't really know what kit to try and buy - most 3600 cl16 seems extortionately expensive or not available - 3600 cl18 doesn't look to make too much difference, but single rank can give up 5-10% performance which I'd really want to avoid. Have people had success sending kits back if the weren't dual rank?

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    Having throught about it more, it seems like getting 4x8gb is the best option to guarantee dual rank? I'll never want to upgrade to more than 32gb so I don't think that's a problem.

    Is it likely that 4 sticks of ram would cause many stability issues these days on a good quality mobo?

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    My latest RAM order just turned up. Popped it in, and running fine. Interesting for a few points though.

    They are 3200MHz ECC 16GB Kingston: https://www.kingstonmemoryshop.co.uk...emory-ram-dimm

    Eek, the price has jumped up since I ordered yesterday. Guess I got lucky with the fluctuations. Anyway... Ignore the generic picture of a stick of registered ram, I hate that they do that though. This stuff works fine in my Asus X470 mobo with a 3700X.

    This is server ram, making my PC feel more like a workstation again. Doing paid work on a machine without ECC always niggled.

    So firstly this is the fastest ECC ram I have some across.

    Secondly, there is no XMP/DOCP setting in this ram, but out of the box it came up at 3200MHz, albeit at a 22 latency that looks laughable compared to the old HyperX Predator which will now be going in the wife's machine. That latency is at 1.2v though. I've never had ram that was JEDEC standard 3200MHz, they have always been 2666MHz with DOCP option up to full speed.

    The part code tells you exactly what you are getting. 3.2 GHz, ECC, single rank, 16GB, Micron E die. There are other variants if you want dual rank, 32GB, 8GB sticks or SK-Hynix chips.

    My previous build time was 82.6 seconds, now down to 82.5 seconds so down in the measurement noise. I shan't bother overclocking.

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jmurr View Post
    Looking at video hardware unboxed did on ryzen 5000 memory (posted 10th Nov - can't link it as new!)

    I had been really hell bent on getting 2x 16gb 3600 cl16, but it looks like cl18 is hardly any different (although he doesn't actually have a cl16 dual rank setup there - so perhaps someone could let me know if i'm wrong?)

    I think if I were you, i'd get the 3600 cl18 - although you can see the margins are quite small

    CAT-THE-FIFTH - are there any 36gb kits that are guaranteed to be dual rank? It seems to be a bit of a lottery and don't really know what kit to try and buy - most 3600 cl16 seems extortionately expensive or not available - 3600 cl18 doesn't look to make too much difference, but single rank can give up 5-10% performance which I'd really want to avoid. Have people had success sending kits back if the weren't dual rank?
    Because I couldn't get the Crucial set,I got this one for around £114:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/32...Black/RAM4470/

    It has a 50/50 chance of being either Micron E-die or Hynix CJR and I got the latter.

    CPU-Z says its dual ranked. It does periodically go down to around £114(it was thos price a few days ago).

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    Re: Ryzen owners RAM recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Because I couldn't get the Crucial set,I got this one for around £114:
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/32...Black/RAM4470/

    It has a 50/50 chance of being either Micron E-die or Hynix CJR and I got the latter.

    CPU-Z says its dual ranked. It does periodically go down to around £114(it was thos price a few days ago).
    Thanks - are both of those chips dual rank, or just the Hynix ones you got?

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