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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Every time I see this thread in the list, I misread it as "Bought a horse..."

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Every time I see this thread in the list, I misread it as "Bought a horse..."
    If that was the case, I would love for the reason to be because of the viral Old Spice ads from about 2010 resulting in a desire to imitate it that slowly built up until it just had to happen.

    If not though, what would your speculation have been for Cat6 to be involved with the horse?

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

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    If not though, what would your speculation have been for Cat6 to be involved with the horse?
    Cheaper than authentic rope and more easily made into a lariat....?

    Maybe you want to run a lot of cable over a long distance and it's easier than walking?
    They must have done something similar when laying telegraph wires....

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Cheaper than authentic rope and more easily made into a lariat....?

    Maybe you want to run a lot of cable over a long distance and it's easier than walking?
    They must have done something similar when laying telegraph wires....
    Fair point. I did imagine someone riding through the ducts on a horse, but that approach has two issues:

    1. Ducts may be too narrow for that to be feasible.
    2. If you were going to do it, it would make more sense to be fibre than Cat6.


    I can't remember who it involved or when (other than in the last ten years), but I'm pretty sure I remember a video (YouTube or BBC News web video) that saw someone being given rare access into the ducts with an engineer.

    If I recall correctly, I think it was basically said that the reason that access was kept close at the time was due to how easily some cable could disintegrate if touched due to the time it had been there.

    Although I think that was in reference to the copper cabling.

    I could be remembering incorrectly and mixing videos up though.
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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

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    Cheaper than authentic rope and more easily made into a lariat....?

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Quote Originally Posted by Output View Post
    If that was the case, I would love for the reason to be because of the viral Old Spice ads from about 2010 resulting in a desire to imitate it that slowly built up until it just had to happen.

    If not though, what would your speculation have been for Cat6 to be involved with the horse?
    You can herd horses, but not cats - although this EDS advert would beg to differ!

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Virgin installed yesterday. Going away this weekend but next weekend will set cab up and switch.

    Will also do a full post on the refurbished house and a quick guide on how to make money disappear
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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

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    Make sure when terminating that the twists go as close to the connectors as possible. I've seen gigabit connections fail due to too much of the cable being untwisted in the past. 10 GBe is bound to be more sensitive.
    I'm now cabling from my house to my office in the garden. Got some Foiled (shielded) but not armoured Cat6 external cable with some Cat6 keystones and.............It can't hold gigabit. Significant packet loss.

    The run is close to the 40 ish meter limit of Cat6 for 10 GBit but it can't even hold Gigabit. Next step, get much better Cat6a keystones and some decent Cat6/6a patch leads. Sort the grounding. I'll probably ground from the house rather than the Office. See if all of that sorts the problem. If not, it's Fibre time with a pair of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/10Gtek-Conv.../dp/B06XBSZJL3
    I'm not pulling a load more copper through regardless of what the claimed rating is.
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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

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    I'm now cabling from my house to my office in the garden. Got some Foiled (shielded) but not armoured Cat6 external cable with some Cat6 keystones and.............It can't hold gigabit. Significant packet loss.

    The run is close to the 40 ish meter limit of Cat6 for 10 GBit but it can't even hold Gigabit. Next step, get much better Cat6a keystones and some decent Cat6/6a patch leads. Sort the grounding. I'll probably ground from the house rather than the Office. See if all of that sorts the problem. If not, it's Fibre time with a pair of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/10Gtek-Conv.../dp/B06XBSZJL3
    I'm not pulling a load more copper through regardless of what the claimed rating is.
    Looks like it's Fiber time. Shortened the run by 11 meters, Cat6a patch cables and Cat6a keystones = still packet loss at 1 GBit.

    Either:
    The cable was kinked somewhere that I can't see (unlikely)
    There is a source of interference causing this problem (possible, however power isn't the cause)
    The cable's not even Cat6 capable (likely. Buying cable is a minefield unless you want to spend significant cash)
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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    I think you said you had access to a splicer - but if not, drop me a PM.
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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

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    I think you said you had access to a splicer - but if not, drop me a PM.
    I don't but right now I'm thinking of getting a pair of Mellanox 10 GB SFP+ cards, some SFP+ MM modules and just getting an armoured Fibre patch lead for now. It will be above ground temporarily and it looks like it will be around £40 delivered. The "100 Mbit" cable can be a back up if the server at the other end is down.
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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    If you're using shielded cabling, it has to be grounded properly - otherwise it might be making things worse!

    Have you tried different nics at either end to see if it's definitely the cable that's struggling?

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    If you're using shielded cabling, it has to be grounded properly - otherwise it might be making things worse!

    Have you tried different nics at either end to see if it's definitely the cable that's struggling?
    Yep - grounded only one end. Also have checked with different NIC/switch and switch/switch combination. Not prepared to do any more. I'm not into flogging dead horses. The cable has proven itself unsuitable so Fibre has been ordered. When I get a trench dug I'll probably pull another cable through (and make it a pair of cables) which claim to meet Cat6A spec instead. If they don't work, my Fibre bodge* will work until I get a 10GB SFP+ and 10 GBE switch.

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Apologies for resurrecting this thread but after a long hiatus while sorting out other parts of the house we are finally installing the network. Rather than extend this thread I've started a new one but thought I'd mention it here and say thanks for the advice I got from this thread a while back.

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    If you want it to look nice and professional, though, there are long drill bits and long fishing tools that allow you to make smaller holes in your walls and run the cable without going through the process of making trenches like you describe. It's hard work, and the tools are expensive, but it may save you time in the long run depending on how much wire you have to run.

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    Re: Bought a house, want to run cat6 cable..

    Quote Originally Posted by adsloy View Post
    If you want it to look nice and professional, though, there are long drill bits and long fishing tools that allow you to make smaller holes in your walls and run the cable without going through the process of making trenches like you describe. It's hard work, and the tools are expensive, but it may save you time in the long run depending on how much wire you have to run.
    Not in solid masonry walls they don't. I've got fish tapes and long bits etc. The only way to get a cable in solid brick is to chase it however.

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