Bargin Memory or not?

[brentonhill]

Its coming to 48.65 each for me so it must like you more than me but I can't complain!

[Harkin]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is shocking
Bad advice is worse than no advice!

I was just saying what some1 had told me on here before, go figure.

[Thorsson]

I'm aware that Micron are a big player in the chip market. Normally they let others make the actual memory sticks (in this market they are "no-name IMO). Making their own and offloading them cheap with a limited warranty makes me wonder why.

[Agent]

I'm aware that Micron are a big player in the chip market. Normally they let others make the actual memory sticks (in this market they are "no-name IMO). Making their own and offloading them cheap with a limited warranty makes me wonder why.

The 'actual memory stick' consists of a PCB, SPD timings and a few other small things, excluding the chips - nothing complex. As for 'no-name IMO', All Crucial RAM is Micron made. Crucial are one of the top companys for mission critial RAM. They are used in many high profile systems.

As for the warranty - you have a year with Scan, so no big deal if you cant RMA them to Micron directly

This is the same as the majority of computer parts on the market. Some RAM companys go the extra mile, but its hardly a more 'limited' warranty than anything else you would normally buy

[bobbyzero]

The 'actual memory stick' consists of a PCB, SPD timings and a few other small things, excluding the chips - nothing complex. As for 'no-name IMO', All Crucial RAM is Micron made. Crucial are one of the top companys for mission critial RAM. They are used in many high profile systems.

And what specifications do Crucial demand? Are the Micron own-brand ones the rejects from that process?

You can't generalise - aren't most processors made from the same silicon? Some are high speed, some are lower speed.

Go for a name brand like Crucial if you want a PC that just works, or take a gamble on these - they might work fine.

[Agent]

And what specifications do Crucial demand? Are the Micron own-brand ones the rejects from that process?

You can't generalise - aren't most processors made from the same silicon? Some are high speed, some are lower speed.

Go for a name brand like Crucial if you want a PC that just works, or take a gamble on these - they might work fine.

Presumably Crucial demand the same quality as Micron manufactured boards, considering they are a subsidiary of the same company.
Even if these were 'lesser chips' in some way, they have to work at their rated speed not to be faulty.

You can generalise, to a degree. Buying off a well known and high-quality brand increases the likely hood of getting a good product.
Entire companies build their reputations on such things. Memory is no different.

I love the “take a gamble” bit – on what grounds do you have that these would be a ‘gamble’ as opposed to buying them from Crucial directly?
Micron own Crucial. They are just the 'trading face' of Micron.

They might not overclock as well as RAM designed to do so, that’s been ‘hand picked’, but if these are to be run in a system that won’t exceed its manufacture ratings, they look like a bargain to me.

Lets also keep in mind that almost all RAM comes from one of 3 companies - Samsung, Micron and Infineon.

Im amazed at how people don’t realise how big Micron is, people just don’t know the name because its rebranded as OCZ, G.skill, or one of the numerous companies out there that buy off them.
Without Micron, many of these companies wouldn’t exist.

[Dreaming]

I think scan would be a dodgy ground if they were stocking memory that didn't work. It will work, just might not exceed specifications (i.e. overclock) as nicely or may have more errors etc. but it will still *work*

[bobbyzero]

I love the “take a gamble” bit – on what grounds do you have that these would be a ‘gamble’ as opposed to buying them from Crucial directly?
Micron own Crucial. They are just the 'trading face' of Micron.

Ford own Jaguar. They are just the 'trading face' of Ford.

Obviously cars aren't the same as memory, but owning a luxury brand doesn't automatically make the owner also luxury - Micron are one of the largest chip makers out there. OK. But Crucial are aimed at a different market. Different markets usually means different product specs.

[Flewis]

Will ram get any cheaper?
i will be building my new pc in about 6 weeks, should i order now?

The corsair XMS2 stuff on ebuyer at £47 that is

[Agent]

Ford own Jaguar. They are just the 'trading face' of Ford.

Obviously cars aren't the same as memory, but owning a luxury brand doesn't automatically make the owner also luxury - Micron are one of the largest chip makers out there. OK. But Crucial are aimed at a different market. Different markets usually means different product specs.

I totaly agree on the different markets thing, which is exactly why I think its hard to go wrong with this RAM
Micron are much more professional based (just look at their site), while Crucial offers a more 'friendly' approach to the public.

I also agree that the RAM might be different in some way, but I just dont think that buying it is a 'gamble' at all

If it works at its rated specs, whats wrong with it?
Overclocking is always a risk. If you want to take some of that risk away, people pay more, but this RAM is hardly aimed at the overclocker (having said that, it could overclock like mad for all I know )

[GSte]

Wrong im afraid. 2^32 = 4Gb / 4 gibibytes if you want to be exact
It depends on the hardware being used, and what is being assigned to the registers.

Admittedly, yes, but most people only get around 3GB showing

[Pob255]

I go with Agent here, Pop off one of thoes heatsinks off of the corsair memory and look at the name on the chip, it will not be corsair.

And if you crack open many servers you'll find the name Micron on the chips. Why is this memory so cheap? scan probably got there hands on a shipment of surplus stock.

And looking at total price
Corsair is £57.17 (free 5day delivery)
And this is the spec sheet http://corsairmemory.com/corsair/pro...048-5400C4.pdf

2gb of the micron will be £79.85 (next day delivery)
And this is there spec sheet http://download.micron.com/pdf/datas...28_256x64A.pdf
I'm pritty sure that's the correct one, should ask in the scan section what the full manufactors code is

Now can you see the differnce between rebranded sold to the end user and manufactor selling to 3rd party?
Although at that silly price I'm very tempted by the corsair as 2gb of ddr2 is next on my upgrade list.

[TooNice]

As for the warranty - you have a year with Scan, so no big deal if you cant RMA them to Micron directly

Umm, do they have a different policy for different products?
I know I had to sort it out myself when my sound card became faulty within the first year.

Regarding Micron, if DVD-Media is anything to go by.. Unbranded Taiyo Yuden burn as well as branded and rebranded Taiyo Yuden in general (as long as they aren't fake).

[Agent]

Umm, do they have a different policy for different products?
I know I had to sort it out myself when my sound card became faulty within the first year.

Well first off, any company that sells you goods are obliged under law to sort it out for you. They can tell you to go to the manufacture if they feel it will be quicker, but if you insist, they must do it. Although in most cases this just adds another step in the chain of the RMA process.

[Pob255]

Rats that corsair is out of stock already
I knew there was someting I had to do this morning.

[Flewis]

It was gone this morning, sold out last night, managed to get 4GB.