Crysis Dvd Making Strange Noises!!

[danroyle]

hey bought crysis got it installed yesterday and today i noticed that when i start my pc up it starts checking the dvd in the drive as the os boots and it sounds like someone is doing etching work to the disc in the drive.

it also does this in windows if i open then close the drawer or if i start the game.

not had this issue with any other discs that i can think of

dvd drive is maybe 8 months old and is a lite-on 20x dvd rewriter lightscribe drive IDE

anyone had same issue is it Ea using Cheap nasty discs again? or a fault coming on the drive itself


thanks for any help Given


Also Takes about a Mnute for the autorun to kick in

[tigerboyce]

Mine does it too, was rather worried about wft was happening, but it seems to be fine after it stops..

[danroyle]

Mine does it too, was rather worried about wft was happening, but it seems to be fine after it stops..

cheers was worried my dvd drive was on the fritz must be cheap nasty Discs then good old Ea

[Agent]

You have SecureROM to thank for that guys....
Remember, those that downloaded it with a crack wouldn't have this issue .....when will they learn?

[Lucio]

I don't get it, why bother with any disc based security, it only annoys those that have paid good money for their products. Ultimately anyone who wants to get around it, will and you're left with a bunch of annoyed people who expect a PC game to work like a console game.


I can understand software registration and online activation, once complete, those go away and leave the user with a clean experience and are no less crackable than disc based technologies.

[PeteSmith]

If game companies and developers were to stop putting copy protection techniques on new PC games we would soon not have any new PC games to play at all, the PC gaming market is already on its knee's due to piracy of PC games and consoles stealing the market. We should be thankful game developers have not completely abandoned the pc as a viable platform altogether. I for one can't stand console gaming and would deeply miss playing games on my PC if this were to happen.

That said, if PC gaming was to become a thing of the past the piracy scene would certainly impact much more onto other platforms, so no gain really.

[UltraMagnus]

If game companies and developers were to stop putting copy protection techniques on new PC games we would soon not have any new PC games to play at all, the PC gaming market is already on its knee's due to piracy of PC games and consoles stealing the market. We should be thankful game developers have not completely abandoned the pc as a viable platform altogether. I for one can't stand console gaming and would deeply miss playing games on my PC if this were to happen.

That said, if PC gaming was to become a thing of the past the piracy scene would certainly impact much more onto other platforms, so no gain really.

yeah, and disk protection has REALLY stopped piracy...

and there is quite a bit of piracy on consoles... maybe not as much as on pc, but it is incredibly easy to pirate on consoles

[PeteSmith]

yeah, and disk protection has REALLY stopped piracy...

and there is quite a bit of piracy on consoles... maybe not as much as on pc, but it is incredibly easy to pirate on consoles

I think you missed my point, i never claimed disc protection has stopped piracy, i was merely suggesting if developers were to stop trying to think of new ways to stop game piracy they would more than likely abandon the dwindling PC platform entirely.

[Thorsson]

Online games have no excuse because using a code works far better. I can see that SP games might warrant such protection. Problem is that the Pir8s always crack them anyway, and it's only the innocent customers who suffer.

[Agent]

If game companies and developers were to stop putting copy protection techniques on new PC games we would soon not have any new PC games to play at all, the PC gaming market is already on its knee's due to piracy of PC games and consoles stealing the market. We should be thankful game developers have not completely abandoned the pc as a viable platform altogether. I for one can't stand console gaming and would deeply miss playing games on my PC if this were to happen.

That said, if PC gaming was to become a thing of the past the piracy scene would certainly impact much more onto other platforms, so no gain really.

I disagree entirely. Anyone can spend 30 seconds on Google and find a hack / patch for a copied game. Disk based protection has not stopped this in the slightest. Even if you take the "copying it for a mate" scenario, how many PC gamers are able to update their system with the latest drivers and patch their games (official patches), yet are not able to find the most basic information on Google about copying disks?

PC gaming as we knew it is largely dead. Just look at all the recent releases....
Bioshock...360 / PC
Gears of War...360 then PC
Unreal Tournament 3....Entirely built around the consoles then just ported to the PC
Call of Duty 4...PC and 360
etc....

What I find more annoying is the games that go from console to PC.

Is it mostly because of piracy? I'm not so convinced, although I'm sure it hasn't helped (remember, if all those protections had an impact, piracy wouldn't be an issue, right?)

*Firstly, console SDK's and development environments have come a long way in the last few years, making them much easier to develop for.

*Secondly, the compatibility with hardware / software issue goes out of the window.

*Thirdly, consoles have a much bigger user base (A £200 console vs yearly PC upgrades?)

*Fourthly, company's can get big money for console based exclusives

In case anyone hasn't guessed, I think consoles have had much more of an impact on the market over piracy

As for piracy on consoles? I have to be honest and say that I'd struggle to name one person I know who didn't have a modded Xbox (original) or a chipped PS1 for example. Arguably more people might use pirate copies on consoles due to the retail cost of the games (usually more than PC).
Its also makes 'sense' to pirate on a console due to the economies of scale.
Take a 360 for example. Cost to get it modded? About £30 from your local dodgy dealer? Take the cost of games for it on the high-street and online - about £30-£50 for a new release depending on where you go?
That means it only takes the cost of about one game for you to break even the cost of the console modification. For someone who doesn't want to buy games, its a no brainer.
Take a worse case scenario - The console breaks. If you have brought / played / completed around 4 £50 games, that's the cost of a new core machine. You're still quids up. And all this is still cheaper than upgrading a PC yearly.

A game on the PC is rarely popular for more than a year, and that's being extremely optimistic. After that, what happens when new hardware comes out, new software (Vista and Service packs for example) that the copy protection doesn't work with? Yeah....that hard earned cash you spent on the game is wasted because its incompatible. Games rarely get patches at times like this.

In my opinion the death of PC gaming is much more simple:

*Consoles are cheaper, easier, have more users and have the chance for good pay offs from MS / Sony for exclusives.

*PC gamers want more innovation than console users. Why bother thinking up a new game concept if you can just take a current one, re-skin it and sell it to the masses?

*You don't need on going support. Once the game is shipped, that's it.

*Retailers make the majority of the profit out of a game most of the time (despite a lot of people thinking its the publishers). This needs to change. Steam is a step in the right direction but is still well over priced (due to the high-street retailers threatening to cut off company's that under-cut them on services like Steam)

There is more, but you get the idea I'm sure

edit - Most of this post wasn't aimed at you directly Pete, just the top part. I just always go off on a rant on subjects like this

[Fabula]

I wonder how much money the games companies would save by not paying to implement a copy protection scheme, that anyway is usually broken before the game is even in the shops.

Galactic civilizations 2 had no copy protection, but has still been hugely successful.

[s_kinton]

My DVD also does this. When I first put it in the drive I thought the DVD was knackered, I was just about to take it out and the autorun menu came up. It just sounded like it was looping, trying to read the DVD. It works fine though, as you would expect.

[tigerboyce]

but its incredibly annoying...

[0iD]

I disagree entirely. Anyone can spend 30 seconds on Google and find a hack / patch for a copied game. Disk based protection has not stopped this in the slightest. Even if you take the "copying it for a mate" scenario, how many PC gamers are able to update their system with the latest drivers and patch their games (official patches), yet are not able to find the most basic information on Google about copying disks?

PC gaming as we knew it is largely dead. Just look at all the recent releases....
Bioshock...360 / PC
Gears of War...360 then PC
Unreal Tournament 3....Entirely built around the consoles then just ported to the PC
Call of Duty 4...PC and 360
etc....

What I find more annoying is the games that go from console to PC.

Is it mostly because of piracy? I'm not so convinced, although I'm sure it hasn't helped (remember, if all those protections had an impact, piracy wouldn't be an issue, right?)

*Firstly, console SDK's and development environments have come a long way in the last few years, making them much easier to develop for.

*Secondly, the compatibility with hardware / software issue goes out of the window.

*Thirdly, consoles have a much bigger user base (A £200 console vs yearly PC upgrades?)

*Fourthly, company's can get big money for console based exclusives

In case anyone hasn't guessed, I think consoles have had much more of an impact on the market over piracy

As for piracy on consoles? I have to be honest and say that I'd struggle to name one person I know who didn't have a modded Xbox (original) or a chipped PS1 for example. Arguably more people might use pirate copies on consoles due to the retail cost of the games (usually more than PC).
Its also makes 'sense' to pirate on a console due to the economies of scale.
Take a 360 for example. Cost to get it modded? About £30 from your local dodgy dealer? Take the cost of games for it on the high-street and online - about £30-£50 for a new release depending on where you go?
That means it only takes the cost of about one game for you to break even the cost of the console modification. For someone who doesn't want to buy games, its a no brainer.
Take a worse case scenario - The console breaks. If you have brought / played / completed around 4 £50 games, that's the cost of a new core machine. You're still quids up. And all this is still cheaper than upgrading a PC yearly.

A game on the PC is rarely popular for more than a year, and that's being extremely optimistic. After that, what happens when new hardware comes out, new software (Vista and Service packs for example) that the copy protection doesn't work with? Yeah....that hard earned cash you spent on the game is wasted because its incompatible. Games rarely get patches at times like this.

In my opinion the death of PC gaming is much more simple:

*Consoles are cheaper, easier, have more users and have the chance for good pay offs from MS / Sony for exclusives.

*PC gamers want more innovation than console users. Why bother thinking up a new game concept if you can just take a current one, re-skin it and sell it to the masses?

*You don't need on going support. Once the game is shipped, that's it.

*Retailers make the majority of the profit out of a game most of the time (despite a lot of people thinking its the publishers). This needs to change. Steam is a step in the right direction but is still well over priced (due to the high-street retailers threatening to cut off company's that under-cut them on services like Steam)

There is more, but you get the idea I'm sure

edit - Most of this post wasn't aimed at you directly Pete, just the top part. I just always go off on a rant on subjects like this

Interestingly, there's an article on the Beeb on this subject
BBC NEWS | Technology | Pushing the PC gaming boundaries

The PC remains a big player in the games market but in recent years its cutting edge has been blunted.

And yes, annoyingly my Crysis DVD is noisy too

[Rishi]

*Firstly, console SDK's and development environments have come a long way in the last few years, making them much easier to develop for.

Pretty much summed it all up in that point "Less" work and potentially more money.

[[GSV]Trig]

I hate disks that you have to have in the drive, why not have some sort of account that checks you've bought the game instead of an old outdated disk check method, annoys the crap out of me, especially at LAN's where you have to carry your disks with u where they can be lost or scratched, much prefer to install the game and then put the disk away in a safe place.

NoCD-Patch ftw tbh..