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    Balanced build...?

    Hi All,
    Another build - this one is for the father-in-law. Once he has it, it'll probably need to last another 6 years or so, like his aging P4-2Ghz. Can you check it's reasonably well balanced please?

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6550, S775, 2.33 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail
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    I think it's reasonably well balanced. I've gone for a cheap case as once it's in, it won't be moved/upgraded often, if at all. I've chosen a modular power supply to make things a bit neater inside.

    Any comments?

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    Just my view but 4 GB is perhaps an over kill and can cause problems unless you go for XP 64 bit or Vista 64 bit.

    Also you will probably not see all 4Gb in any 32 bit windows.

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    What's the PC gonna be used for ?
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    Re: Balanced build...?

    Quote Originally Posted by daniel.phillips View Post
    What's the PC gonna be used for ?
    I think balanced means that the PC will be used for everything (that you would expect a home user to do)...

    I would go for 4x1GB Corsair Ram to save money and then get a 500GB hard drive and a Corsair 520W PSU instead... Also I would get Vista Home Premium as SP1 is almost out (so Vista will be no longer like a beta release )

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    Thank for the replies so far:

    @teachmech: It'll probably go to Vista 64 bit eventually, but even if it can only see 3.5GB the difference in price is negligable.

    @daniel.phillips: Probably a bit of everything. He plays a few games Company of Heroes, LoTR BfME etc. He's just bought a digital SLR - so probably a bit of photoshop, and general Internet and office bits.

    @SiM - the problem with 4x1GB is there's no room for expansion at all. I would give him Vista, but I'm still on XP, and I don't want to have to support an OS I don't currently use!

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    On new boards with 64 bit cpu 64 bit vista will see all 4 GB some people already using 6 Gb and 8Gb. Google and you'll see.
    Its only 32 bits that can not use the 4 Gb.

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    Sorry, didn't make myself clear. I meant I know that XP can only see about 3-3.5GB. I know Vista 64bit can see more. My point was that given it's so cheap at the moment, I may as well stick 4GB in there now.

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    im upgrading at the end of january too, ill also be going for 4 gb seeing as the price as you say is worth going for! just a quick off topic question, with 32bit there are no problems with having 4gb except just not seeing it all, am i correct?

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    I'd probably spend the extra £15 and get a E6750 for the higher multi if you plan on overclocking. I'd also bite the bullet and go Vista 64 if I had to buy an OS. The machine will have to last so might as well get the latest OS for same price as XP.

    I'm looking to replace mobo/cpu/ram soon, but I'm waiting for the E8*00 chips and I'll stick 4gb ram in simply because it's so cheap even though I will use XP.
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    Re: Balanced build...?

    I would say memory is NOT cheap in UK and have about 30~40% of margin to drop. You will be shocked to see USA memory price which you can almost buy 4GB there for the price of 2GB here. For general purpose PC 2GB is more than enough.

    I think HX450W is a better choice for your setup, and NO, you don't need >500W PSU. Your system tops at 350W even with some heavy overclock.

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    @iranu: It's not going to be heavily overclocked - like I say this thing will have to last for at least 4 years without (much) intervention from me. As I said, the reason I'm not going Vista yet is that there's no compelling reason, and I don't want to have to support something I'm not running myself.

    @ arthurleung: I know what you're saying, about memory, but it's ~ £30 difference in price. For that, it's not even worth my time to go over there and plug it in.

    Re the PSU - good advice - thanks...

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    Looks like a good build, I would change to a 500GB drive though, samsung are extremely quiet

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    never used an xclio PSU before.. so I can't comment on that but I would go for a corsair 450w VX, maybe push to a 520HX if you want modular. Xclio's might be alright though.

    4GB of RAM is a good choice imo.. as you say its so cheap why not..

    £10 - £15 extra isn't bad for the E6750

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    On the psu front I have one of those running my system and have found it to be reliable and it has worked well.

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    Re: Balanced build...?

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    I don't want to have to support something I'm not running myself.
    That makes alot of sense. Troubleshooting is a PITA at the best of times. It would be even worse being unfamiliar with the OS. Over the click on the start button. What start button?! Arrrghh!
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    Re: Balanced build...?

    I'm also yet to see a compelling reason to upgrade. DX10 isn't worth having yet, there's a minor performance hit in gaming, and I'll be running Vista Business (got MS Action Pack) rather than Ultimate anyway, so I'll loose the media functionality.

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