does amd 3000+ 200mhz exist?!?

[daz_uk]

Hi there,

Just ordered this:

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=55149

and recieved it. They sent me the wrong monitor so I thought I'd check the rest of the gear and I remembered me scratching my head when i selected the 400ddr 3000+ as I couldnt find any reciews of it anywhere.
SO i checked the chips 'tag' and compared it to the reviews of the XP3000+ 166/333ddr and it had some of the same numbers and letters. Anyway, reading more I saw that the 'D' at the end of the serial number means 333fsb and my 'so called' 400fsb chip has the 'D' too.
Now have E-Buyer falsely advertised or am I a complete idiot?

The sumbers/letters are:
AXDA3000DKV4D 9487552260128
AQUCA 0323RPMW


So what does that make it? Please hurr a reply so I can send it back if its wrong!!

Cheers

Daz

EDIT: actually i can see now that the 400mhz version has the 'E' at the end so they have sent me the wrong chip.. BASTARDS!!!!!!!

[malfunction]

AFAIK the only official 200MHz FSB socket A CPU is the 3200+

[dgr]

3000+ = 200*10.5 as far as i know, 3200 = 11*200.

dgr

[daz_uk]

hmmm, so that ebuyer link is complete bollocks then? I mean even the manafacturer part on the link i put up says 'E' on the end which would be consistent with the 'D' being 333fsb. and if you read the customer reviews they also say it autodetects as 400fsb.

surely someone here can confirm it exists? or am i part of a huge conspiracy?! LOL

I am SO mad, they sent me a 17" monitor instead of a 19" one and now the wrong CPU, not to mention the money now wasted on next day delivery - methinks they better renumerate me in some way or there'll be trouble.

3000+ = 200*10.5 as far as i know, 3200 = 11*200.

dgr

[BUFF]

There is meant to be a 3000+/200fsb cpu but the AMD Processor Script says your part is 333fsb.

Doesn't really matter as that cpu should be unlocked so you can set multiplier & fsb to what you want (within the cpu's limits of course ), unless of course they charged you more for it.

[Allen]

You've already answered your own question, but there is an XP3000+ in both 333MHz and 400MHz flavours and the XP3200+ is only 400MHz.

[daz_uk]

Ok, yeah I have been charged more for it but im glad that someone actually confirmed it does come in the 400mhz flavour. The non-GCSE bastards in the e-buyer warehouse strike again.... 2 items wrong on the same order.. wow

Thanks for the replies lads.

You've already answered your own question, but there is an XP3000+ in both 333MHz and 400MHz flavours and the XP3200+ is only 400MHz.

[bigZ]

The sumbers/letters are:
AXDA3000DKV4D 9487552260128
AQUCA 0323RPMW

I wouldn't get rid of that if I were u, it's unlocked so u can set the multiplier to whatever you desire

[Kezzer]

There are many different types of brand. The 2600+ for example, there's three versions of that. You never know unless you buy it from the right place.

[daz_uk]

BigZ,

Surely a 400mhz chip would be better than a 333mhz chip, especially running it synch with the 400ddr ram too? wouldnt that be better than an unlockedd 333?

Also maybe my 400mhz one will be unlocked too? and its the principle that they charged me more!!!

There are many different types of brand. The 2600+ for example, there's three versions of that. You never know unless you buy it from the right place.

[malfunction]

Daz - what bigZ means is that if your chip is unlocked you can change the multiplier *and* the frequency so that you effectively convert your 333 / 3000+ to a 400 / 3000+ (or increase it even further to a 400 / 3200+ or even above - depending on how high it will go and what options you have through your motherboard's BIOS). Seeing as you are sounding new to all this it's worth pointing out that this invalidates any warranty on the chip. It's very very likely to work though. But if you aren't interested send it back and get eBuyer to send you a replacement.

[daz_uk]

mal,

im actually not new to it - lol
the problem here is that in all likely hood the the 400mhz chip may be unlocked too and then I can increase that even MORE than i would an unlocked 333 right?

All im saying is i paid the extra money for the 400 and i expected it to be that!

Daz - what bigZ means is that if your chip is unlocked you can change the multiplier *and* the frequency so that you effectively convert your 333 / 3000+ to a 400 / 3000+ (or increase it even further to a 400 / 3200+ or even above - depending on how high it will go and what options you have through your motherboard's BIOS). Seeing as you are sounding new to all this it's worth pointing out that this invalidates any warranty on the chip. It's very very likely to work though. But if you aren't interested send it back and get eBuyer to send you a replacement.

[malfunction]

In all honestly there's likely to be no difference between your chip and the 400 on a decent motherboard (nForce2). In theory all chips are speed binned i.e. tested for max stable frequency and then sold as whichever chip - but supply and demand and the quality of the production process means that chips sold at lower speeds are usually capable of more. Your chip might be a total dog though so what we're suggesting is that you test it out and if it can run fast enough why bother swapping it... You might get a good one that will clock up past 2.2GHz (400 / 3200+ speeds)... If it's a crap chip then you might want to get it swapped for a 400 / 3000+ but then again the 400 / 3000+ might be multiplier locked and / or not clock as high as the one you already have.

[malfunction]

BTW - I don't have the exact figures to hand and ICBA to get them but the 333/3000+ ought to have a higher clock speed than the 400/3000+ so in terms of core clock it's actually faster...

[daz_uk]

sp your saying in the BIOS that I would set the fsb to 200 (400 in effect) instead of 166 (333) and it will hold steady?

The thing is, my own machine is a 2700+ (not sure if its unlocked actually) but I know that when i raise the fsb past 180 it throws a wobbly. I got a soltek 75-frn and i can change the fsb and memory speed indepently so i left the ram at 333 (co its only 2700 stuff) and still when i set the FSB higher than 180 it barfed on me....thats why ive got concern that this 3000+ 333 chip will be inferior to the 3000+ 400fs as standard chip....

what u say?

In all honestly there's likely to be no difference between your chip and the 400 on a decent motherboard (nForce2). In theory all chips are speed binned i.e. tested for max stable frequency and then sold as whichever chip - but supply and demand and the quality of the production process means that chips sold at lower speeds are usually capable of more. Your chip might be a total dog though so what we're suggesting is that you test it out and if it can run fast enough why bother swapping it... You might get a good one that will clock up past 2.2GHz (400 / 3200+ speeds)... If it's a crap chip then you might want to get it swapped for a 400 / 3000+ but then again the 400 / 3000+ might be multiplier locked and / or not clock as high as the one you already have.

[bigZ]

chips these days aren't unlocked... so when you get one which is unlocked hold onto it with your dear life... if it's a crap clocker you can always sell it. That's if you want to overclock it. You will need some reasonable memory to hit higher than 200Mhz fsb though